If a Christian commits suicide, is he still forgiven? - Friends N Christ2024-03-29T07:08:59Zhttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/forum/topics/if-a-christian-commits-suicide-is-he-still-forgiven?commentId=2993852%3AComment%3A69838&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Jess S. I see your reply a…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2017-04-02:2993852:Comment:697622017-04-02T06:40:01.041ZTJ Tampahttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/TJTampa
Hi Jess S. I see your reply about the suicide question and your comment regarding who are Hebrew and who are Jew. You said Hebrews are from {1} Adam (2) Judea and (3) Israel, if I am understanding you correctly. You said Jews are a mix with the line of the descendants of Cain. But... isn't Cain in the line of Adam and therefore a Hebrew, according to your comments?
Hi Jess S. I see your reply about the suicide question and your comment regarding who are Hebrew and who are Jew. You said Hebrews are from {1} Adam (2) Judea and (3) Israel, if I am understanding you correctly. You said Jews are a mix with the line of the descendants of Cain. But... isn't Cain in the line of Adam and therefore a Hebrew, according to your comments? I quickly skimmed through the…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2017-03-31:2993852:Comment:696452017-03-31T14:06:20.501ZJesse Shepherdhttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/JessShepherd
<p>I quickly skimmed through the replies and I was a little surprised that Samson was not mentioned since he committed suicide when he made his last prayer while he was on Earth; and yes I believe he was forgiven. Samson went through heart aches, sadness & depression (being blind causes severe sadness & depression, I know, I have been there)</p>
<p>God knows our hearts, God knows the circumstances; if someone seeks to end their life due to malicious intent (such as making themselves an…</p>
<p>I quickly skimmed through the replies and I was a little surprised that Samson was not mentioned since he committed suicide when he made his last prayer while he was on Earth; and yes I believe he was forgiven. Samson went through heart aches, sadness & depression (being blind causes severe sadness & depression, I know, I have been there)</p>
<p>God knows our hearts, God knows the circumstances; if someone seeks to end their life due to malicious intent (such as making themselves an offering to satan or any idol) then God will know why and will most likely give them a chance to learn from their mistake before passing any judgement, though depression and results from trauma are the main reasons for suicide, which God will forgive.</p>
<p>Life can be looked at as a rubber band, flexible & resilient when new, brittle when old; as we age our hearts will gather regret, guilt & sadness from things we lived through in the past, and the sadness of not being able to go back or change things; this will give the feeling of not wanting to live any longer, maybe it was a blessing that God shortened our lifespan after the fall of Adam & Eve. Let this be a lesson to you younger folk to do what is right no matter how bad you think the outcome will be.</p>
<p>Us older Americans have depression & sadness because so many hoards of gross mongrel heathens have migrated here and made our beautiful country into a Godless ghetto and brought in their heathen idols which have ruined our land, made it difficult for us Christians to live and have become a thorn in our side.</p>
<p>I would give my life for Jesus in a heartbeat, I will fight & die for Jesus because it is what is right; would God consider that suicide? ...of course not.</p>
<p>Now when it does come to that point where we are brought up at the moment where satan will give us the choice to choose him or else; this is when we must be still before God, have the faith & patience of the saints to do or say what the Holy Spirits wants us to do and not follow our own judgement; if we disobey the Holy Spirit at that moment, that is what the unforgivable sin is.</p>
<p>~ As I was skimming through some of the replies; I saw some things about jews, judism, etc., In order to know the key to the Word, then knowing that Jesus is not hebrew, jewish or judean or israelite, He is the Son of God, and has been long before any human existed, don't label him just because the pride in your heart may deceive you.</p>
<p>It's very simple: the hebrews are the descendants of Adam, Judeans & Isralites are hebrews; yet some intermingled with the line of Cain and those who were mixed with the line of Cain were called jews. The real meaning of this was lost; one of satan's schemes is to change definitions so that it will cause deception & confusion.</p>
<p></p> Sometimes a person does not s…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2017-03-31:2993852:Comment:698382017-03-31T04:00:46.843ZMtn. Truthhttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/Charles
<p>Sometimes a person does not see any other option than to remove his/herself from the situation. Whether physical imbalance or psychic trauma they are not in their right condition of reason. Anyone who has actually been face to face with the black dog (as Churchill put it) really has no idea what they are talking about. It is not being blue, sometimes it is decades old. Depression by definition, is seeing no future to current existence. For all the words spoken on this topic I see no…</p>
<p>Sometimes a person does not see any other option than to remove his/herself from the situation. Whether physical imbalance or psychic trauma they are not in their right condition of reason. Anyone who has actually been face to face with the black dog (as Churchill put it) really has no idea what they are talking about. It is not being blue, sometimes it is decades old. Depression by definition, is seeing no future to current existence. For all the words spoken on this topic I see no valid or valuable rescue to anyone in this condition from my or the commentors experience in such things. Outside looking in is speculation at best.</p> This is an important and rela…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2017-03-10:2993852:Comment:698892017-03-10T23:44:44.058ZTJ Tampahttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/TJTampa
This is an important and relative topic. I agree that suicide is controversial and sad. I agree it is forgivable. The only unforgivable sin is blaspheming tbe Holy Spirit.
This is an important and relative topic. I agree that suicide is controversial and sad. I agree it is forgivable. The only unforgivable sin is blaspheming tbe Holy Spirit. Thank you Ali. Great to see y…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2015-08-12:2993852:Comment:631442015-08-12T01:53:20.485ZLindahttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/LindaCleary
Thank you Ali. Great to see you here!
Thank you Ali. Great to see you here! Linda, I love what you wrote…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2015-08-11:2993852:Comment:631432015-08-11T21:32:52.247ZAlihttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/Ali
<p>Linda, I love what you wrote about the unpardonable sin and all the details you shared about true salvation being a gift and not a result of works. Excellently written.</p>
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<p>Linda, I love what you wrote about the unpardonable sin and all the details you shared about true salvation being a gift and not a result of works. Excellently written.</p>
<p></p> That be up God,he is the judg…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2015-08-10:2993852:Comment:629342015-08-10T13:08:12.299ZMark Mcnivenhttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/MarkMcniven
<p>That be up God,he is the judge.</p>
<p>That be up God,he is the judge.</p> Jesus never had a disciple ca…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2015-02-09:2993852:Comment:607952015-02-09T17:42:58.118Z2dw9cjlqhg2d6https://friendsnchrist.ning.com/xn/detail/u_2dw9cjlqhg2d6
<p>Jesus never had a disciple called Mark and, Matthew the apostle of Jesus never wrote the gospel attributed to him. If you read Mat. 9:9, the guy who wrote that gospel was reporting on how Matthew met Jesus. This is one reason. The Second is that Matthew the apostle was a Jewish man and, a Jew would not write against his own Faith which was Judaism. Mat. 1:18 for instance, is akin to a spear stabbing Judaism right in the heart. Probably the man who wrote that gospel was a Hellenist former…</p>
<p>Jesus never had a disciple called Mark and, Matthew the apostle of Jesus never wrote the gospel attributed to him. If you read Mat. 9:9, the guy who wrote that gospel was reporting on how Matthew met Jesus. This is one reason. The Second is that Matthew the apostle was a Jewish man and, a Jew would not write against his own Faith which was Judaism. Mat. 1:18 for instance, is akin to a spear stabbing Judaism right in the heart. Probably the man who wrote that gospel was a Hellenist former disciple of Paul's. If you haven't read that text of Matthew, do now and tell me about it. It is about the Greek demigod which is a man born of God with an earthly woman.</p> He was quoting our Lord Jesus…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2015-02-07:2993852:Comment:607902015-02-07T21:10:29.387ZLindahttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/LindaCleary
He was quoting our Lord Jesus! Besides, the same scripture is in the book of Matthew. Matthew was written by Jesus' disciple Matthew, and Mark was written by Jesus' disciple Mark. They believed as Jesus taught them and would never have believed in three gods.
He was quoting our Lord Jesus! Besides, the same scripture is in the book of Matthew. Matthew was written by Jesus' disciple Matthew, and Mark was written by Jesus' disciple Mark. They believed as Jesus taught them and would never have believed in three gods. And the Father is the Spirit…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2015-02-07:2993852:Comment:608732015-02-07T19:37:32.252Z2dw9cjlqhg2d6https://friendsnchrist.ning.com/xn/detail/u_2dw9cjlqhg2d6
<p>And the Father is the Spirit of what? And Jesus was the spirit of what? The Spirit of HaShem is HaShem Himself and there is no other.</p>
<p>Now, you are right by saying that the unpardonable sin consists of knowing better and still transgressing and showing no sign of repentance.</p>
<p>What seems in me to go against the Gospels is that they were not written by Jews but by Hellenists probably former disciples of Paul's. Jews would not write against the Faith of Jesus which was Judaism.</p>
<p>And the Father is the Spirit of what? And Jesus was the spirit of what? The Spirit of HaShem is HaShem Himself and there is no other.</p>
<p>Now, you are right by saying that the unpardonable sin consists of knowing better and still transgressing and showing no sign of repentance.</p>
<p>What seems in me to go against the Gospels is that they were not written by Jews but by Hellenists probably former disciples of Paul's. Jews would not write against the Faith of Jesus which was Judaism.</p>