Levitical Marriage? - Friends N Christ2024-03-29T01:01:32Zhttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/forum/topics/levitical-marriage?groupUrl=shepherdschapelstudies&feed=yes&xn_auth=noErusin (אירוסין) is the Hebr…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2023-03-23:2993852:Comment:990732023-03-23T03:13:50.492ZWilliam H.https://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/Labrock
<p><i><b>Erusin</b></i> <span>(</span><span class="script-hebrew" dir="rtl">אירוסין</span><span>) is the</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language" title="Hebrew language">Hebrew</a> <span>term for</span> <a class="mw-redirect" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betrothal" title="Betrothal">betrothal</a><span>. In</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Hebrew" title="Modern Hebrew">modern Hebrew</a><span>, "erusin" means…</span></p>
<p><i><b>Erusin</b></i> <span>(</span><span class="script-hebrew" dir="rtl">אירוסין</span><span>) is the</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language" title="Hebrew language">Hebrew</a> <span>term for</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betrothal" class="mw-redirect" title="Betrothal">betrothal</a><span>. In</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Hebrew" title="Modern Hebrew">modern Hebrew</a><span>, "erusin" means</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engagement" title="Engagement">engagement</a><span>, but this is not the historical meaning of the term, which is the first part of marriage (the second part being</span> <i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissuin" class="mw-redirect" title="Nissuin">nissuin</a></i><span>).</span></p>
<p>Jewish encyclopedia <a href="https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10432-marriage" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10432-marriage</a></p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erusin" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erusin </a><br/>Hebrew: Marriage (ceremony) marry <a href="https://hebrew.jerusalemprayerteam.org/wedding-marriage-ceremony/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hebrew.jerusalemprayerteam.org/wedding-marriage-ceremony/</a></p> 1 Cor.7 …
If any brother hath…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2022-12-03:2993852:Comment:977912022-12-03T18:29:53.020ZWilliam H.https://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/Labrock
<p>1 Cor.7 …</p>
<p><span class="text 1Cor-7-12 psuedo-selection" id="en-KJV-28500">If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.</span></p>
<p><span class="text 1Cor-7-13" id="en-KJV-28501"><sup class="versenum">13 </sup>And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.…</span></p>
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<p>1 Cor.7 …</p>
<p><span id="en-KJV-28500" class="text 1Cor-7-12 psuedo-selection">If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.</span></p>
<p><span id="en-KJV-28501" class="text 1Cor-7-13"><sup class="versenum">13 </sup>And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.</span></p>
<p><span id="en-KJV-28502" class="text 1Cor-7-14 psuedo-selection"><sup class="versenum">14 </sup>For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.</span></p>
<p><span id="en-KJV-28503" class="text 1Cor-7-15"><sup class="versenum">15 </sup>But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.</span></p> Rabbi Aha bar Jacob told that…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2019-03-13:2993852:Comment:787352019-03-13T05:09:27.606ZWilliam H.https://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/Labrock
<p>Rabbi Aha bar Jacob told that the breastplate of the High Priest (or Kohen Gadol) contained the words "The tribes of Jeshurun," thus supplying the otherwise missing Hebrew letter tet in the word "tribes." (Babylonian Talmud Yoma 73b; see also Exodus Rabbah 38:9.)</p>
<p>In the Zohar, Rabbi Hiya explains that "Jeshurun suggests the word shur [row, side] and indicates that he [Jacob] has his rank on this side and on the other." (Zohar 1:177b.)</p>
<p>In the Chassidic discourses of the Baal…</p>
<p>Rabbi Aha bar Jacob told that the breastplate of the High Priest (or Kohen Gadol) contained the words "The tribes of Jeshurun," thus supplying the otherwise missing Hebrew letter tet in the word "tribes." (Babylonian Talmud Yoma 73b; see also Exodus Rabbah 38:9.)</p>
<p>In the Zohar, Rabbi Hiya explains that "Jeshurun suggests the word shur [row, side] and indicates that he [Jacob] has his rank on this side and on the other." (Zohar 1:177b.)</p>
<p>In the Chassidic discourses of the Baal Shem Tov and his students, it is suggested that the word Yeshurun comes from the root "shir", meaning song or ring, suggesting the circular nature of melodies, i.e. that Jacob's descendants will sing mystical melodies in the coming redemption.</p> Hebrew basic terms relative t…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2017-07-04:2993852:Comment:708772017-07-04T00:14:08.797ZWilliam H.https://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/Labrock
<p>Hebrew basic terms relative to Marriage:</p>
<p>Baal (#1166) Masculine Mary: Male rule, master, "married", lord (Also used as Adon in relation to Sarah and Abraham)</p>
<p>Ish (eesh) /Masculine enity (helpmate), "man", Husband</p>
<p>ownah (#5772) Feminine Marriage </p>
<p>aras- (#781)- espouse, betroth</p>
<p>Hebrew basic terms relative to Marriage:</p>
<p>Baal (#1166) Masculine Mary: Male rule, master, "married", lord (Also used as Adon in relation to Sarah and Abraham)</p>
<p>Ish (eesh) /Masculine enity (helpmate), "man", Husband</p>
<p>ownah (#5772) Feminine Marriage </p>
<p>aras- (#781)- espouse, betroth</p> Ex.21:10 If he take him anoth…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2017-01-18:2993852:Comment:693822017-01-18T08:32:04.811ZWilliam H.https://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/Labrock
<p>Ex.21:10 <span>If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.</span></p>
<p><span><strong>Brother's wife</strong>/ <span>Deut.25:5 "If brethren dwell together, and *one of them *die, and have *no *child, the *wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: *her *husband's *brother *shall *go *in *unto *her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the *duty *of *an *husband's *brother unto her." 6 It shall be that the firstborn…</span></span></p>
<p>Ex.21:10 <span>If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.</span></p>
<p><span><strong>Brother's wife</strong>/ <span>Deut.25:5 "If brethren dwell together, and *one of them *die, and have *no *child, the *wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: *her *husband's *brother *shall *go *in *unto *her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the *duty *of *an *husband's *brother unto her." 6 It shall be that the firstborn whom she bears shall assume the name of his dead brother, so that his name will not be blotted out from Israel. Jer.38:8 "And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and *raise *up *seed *to *thy *brother." The understanding was that this is the purpose behind the sexual intercourse - so that she can raise up childern unto her dead husband. Onan Went forward with the sex just to withhold his part of the *responsibility. His reasoning for doing so was nothing but self and dark. Jer.38:9 "Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother's wife, he *wasted his seed on the ground *in *order *not *to *give *offspring *to *his *brother."/.... Matt.22:24 "Teacher," they said, "Moses declared that if a man dies without having children, his brother is to marry the widow and raise up offspring for him. (Gen.19:31/ Ruth 4:5)</span></span></p> Here we see the Hebrew (i…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2015-01-20:2993852:Comment:603152015-01-20T23:41:25.182ZHis_Willhttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/Brock
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<p>Here we see the Hebrew (<span><strong>ish</strong></span><em>)</em> for the <span>masculine "<em>Man"</em></span> <em>(Hebrew #376)</em> /<em>Not the other word for man(kind) which is Adam (H#120)</em>/ and the Hebrew for the <span>feminine <em>"woman"</em></span> (<em>of ish…</em></p>
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<p>Here we see the Hebrew (<span><strong>ish</strong></span><em>)</em> for the <span>masculine "<em>Man"</em></span> <em>(Hebrew #376)</em> /<em>Not the other word for man(kind) which is Adam (H#120)</em>/ and the Hebrew for the <span>feminine <em>"woman"</em></span> (<em>of ish is)</em> <span><strong>i</strong><strong>shshah</strong></span> (<em>H#802</em>). <em>Note ish is used to describe angelic beings as well & isn't the word used to specifically mention physical "man"(kind) (Adam) but more importantly points to spiritual aspect of gender roles as they relate to us in the physical</em>! The difference between the masculine and the feminine is the two Hebrew letters Yod & Hei which make up (<em>the short version of</em>) The (Sacrid) Name YAH (<em>H#3050</em>)! </p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/307643342?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/307643342?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750" class="align-full"></a>If you take these letters from the man(Masculine) and/or the woman (Feminine) you get the Hebrew word for <strong>FIRE</strong> (eesh H#784). <span>This shows us that when Man or Woman doesn't embrace their gender roles in life they separate themselves from Yah.</span> <span>This also shows that Man/Woman separate from Yah are in danger of (Hell) Fire</span>. <span>It also shows When man/woman is echad (one) with Yah they it removes them from the Fire</span>.</p>
<p><em>Note that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by what? <span>FIRE</span>. Romans 1 when describing Man and Woman who knew God but were not thankful unto him were given over to unclean lusts being attracted to and in <span>sexual relations with the same sex</span>. Rom.1:27 says they "<strong><span>burned</span></strong> in their lust one toward the other"</em>.</p>
<p>In 1 Cor.7 Paul is telling how He isnt married and how he is fully devoted unto the Lord and while he suggests this is for him and that he would rather Apostles (sent forth ones) be this way and this devoted (Note Moshe/Moses also was seperated from his wife and kids to go serve the Lord) "But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to <strong><span>burn</span></strong><em> "(in lust) 1 Cor.7:9</em>.</p>
<p>Unlike Paul many sages suggest marriage completes ones gender role in this life. The bible begins and ends with marriage. Yahushua (Jesus) is the brides groom and Israel is his bride. The Tanakh even mentions that God entered into this covenant with Israel. </p>
<p>You will see in the pic above that the numeric value of The Name <strong>Yah</strong> is that of <strong><span>15</span></strong>. Interestingly enough the 3 Pilgrimage Festivals (<span><strong>Pesach, Shavuot, & Sukkot</strong></span>), known as the Shalosh Regalim given to Israel to observe happen on the 15th days of biblical months! These set aside times are in direct relation between Yah & His bride, calling her out unto Himself!</p>
<p>God is a consuming fire unto those in transgression at judgement yet comforts His people with the same presence! Before Shabbat begins its Jewish tradition that the woman light the (2) Shabbat candles that are allowed to burn out. Weekly Shabbat is again a set aside time for the people of God to set aside unto the LORD. Ex.35:3 say not to light a fire On Shabbat. This could symbolize not to stray from Yah during Shabbat but rather find peace and rest in Him.</p>
<p>More layers not seen at first glance found here: <a href="http://friendsnchrist.ning.com/video/aleph-tav-bible-code?commentId=2993852%3AComment%3A11125%C2%A0" target="_blank">http://friendsnchrist.ning.com/video/aleph-tav-bible-code?commentId=2993852%3AComment%3A11125 </a>;</p> Polygamy? Is it for today? It…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2015-01-12:2993852:Comment:601812015-01-12T04:56:17.030ZHis_Willhttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/Brock
<p><strong>Polygamy?</strong> Is it for today? <span style="text-decoration: underline;">It was biblical and IMV was acceptable Prior to the coming of The Complete (written/oral) Torah revealed to Moses</span>. <span><span class="UFICommentBody"><span>This is how I came to this conclusion. If you look at those who were in polygamy in the bible most were in it prior to the recieving of Torah. In such times there was a use for it (. However following the giving of the law we dont see as many…</span></span></span></p>
<p><strong>Polygamy?</strong> Is it for today? <span style="text-decoration: underline;">It was biblical and IMV was acceptable Prior to the coming of The Complete (written/oral) Torah revealed to Moses</span>. <span><span class="UFICommentBody"><span>This is how I came to this conclusion. If you look at those who were in polygamy in the bible most were in it prior to the recieving of Torah. In such times there was a use for it (. However following the giving of the law we dont see as many practiciing polygamy. I think of <a href="http://nazarenespace.com/profiles/blogs/did-yah-bless-david-with-many-wives" target="_blank" rel="noopener">King David</a><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> and Solomon</span> (please feel free to share others!). When we look at the sins of David and Solomon their sins included their love life! David seeked after another mans wife (2 Sam.11) and even had the man killed so he could have her. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">David</span> acknowledged he was a sinner <span> and often spoke of salvation, repentance,... However some try and point to Ps.119:168 and claim he never sinned. (Ps.119 vs.173 "I have chosen" 176 "I have gone astray", one can Become righteous (keep the Torah) even though they have sinned (via repentance / atonement)</span> <span>1 Kings 15:5 / 2 Sam.24:10... Ps.51:1,5,12 ...</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Solomon</span> took wives of other peoples (the goyim) which was a sin to Israelis and even embraced their forms of idolatry. So they are hardly examples of proper marital relations. With the coming of Torah we were told that a man was to cleve unto his wife and his wife unto him and they were to be one (echad - a unified one). I dont know how you can be one with another woman (or man) and yet be one with another woman (or man) logically for me that would involve two of the same sex having relations that are forbidden. Also Jewish elders made takanot (man made laws based on interpretation of Torah) against polygamy in relative modern times for reasons much like this and cause of how polygamy effected bonds and attitudes among those practicing it. We even see the unrest in such relations prior to the coming of Torah (example Hagar and Sarah). If someone can show me someone practising it after the coming of the law in which their love life was not seen as sinful but raher pleasing unto G-D please do Im willing to accept edification (from our Father)... Ex.21:10?</span></span></span></p>
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<p><span><span class="UFICommentBody"><span>I believe this subject will become more of a subject in the future when we have muslims who are told they can have up to four wives (even though their hypocritical "prophet" had many many more at one given time.) I think this is another way in which islam attracts the immoral lustful man and those who like this lifestyle may use such to fuel pushing this as an acceptable norm in society. Share any thoughts<a href="http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/4483/did-christs-original-twelve-apostles-have-families" target="_blank" rel="noopener">.</a> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span class="UFICommentBody"><span><span>So the question many still ask is: Is polygamy a sin? <em>(keeping the discussion open...)</em> Gen.2 "Therefore, a man shall leave his father and his mother, and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh" (Please remember this is revelation given to Moshe/ spoken to and in relation to Adam/ mankind)... The "NT" says the first man ("Adam") was carnal... A decree given unto Adam (who were his parents??? why "leave" parents and "cleve" unto your wife? and you and your wife be a unified One? (In what way? <em>Phy/Spiritually</em>)... So its a relation that is so close you are now one with your 'better half' in a way unlike your current relationship with your parents... and thus how is a man and a woman Spiritually echad (one) If there are 2,3,... women (men) in such a "bond"? For example i had had 3 wives how am I one with each and yet all (in my heart)? I cant name one example of polygamy in the scriptures where i could honestly say that the man was one with each wife spiritually. There was constant favoritism and jealousy. We can show where the man was one with each Physically (at separate times/ right?). As far as Judaism is concerned I have read where there are (modern) prohibitions on polygamy (based off the Word) by the "rabbis" (<em>Is it evident in the "613"?</em>...) and they constantly point to the effect on all involved. After the concept of being echad with your wife we are forbidden to engage in adultery, fornication (harlotry),.....</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span class="UFICommentBody">Consider <b>Ex.21:10</b> “If he takes <b>*</b>another [wife] for himself, he shall not diminish her sustenance, her clothing, or her marital relations.“</span></span></p>
Num.36:7,8,9 seems to point…tag:friendsnchrist.ning.com,2013-01-31:2993852:Comment:466982013-01-31T08:18:45.220ZHis_Willhttps://friendsnchrist.ning.com/profile/Brock
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<p>Num.36:7,8,9 <strong>seems to point toward the spacific "<span style="text-decoration: underline;">people"</span> being the tribe of Levi</strong>! (Is.22:24) In relation to whom a Levitical Priest would spacifically be called to marry.<br></br> ----------------</p>
<p><em>Other notable areas quoted from a thread at JewsforJesus:</em></p>
<p><em>"Also, Aharon the High Priest was of the tribe of Levi, yet he married Elisheva (…</em></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Num.36:7,8,9 <strong>seems to point toward the spacific "<span style="text-decoration: underline;">people"</span> being the tribe of Levi</strong>! (Is.22:24) In relation to whom a Levitical Priest would spacifically be called to marry.<br/> ----------------</p>
<p><em>Other notable areas quoted from a thread at JewsforJesus:</em></p>
<p><em>"Also, Aharon the High Priest was of the tribe of Levi, yet he married Elisheva (<a class="lbsBibleRef" href="http://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/Ex%206.23" target="_blank">Ex 6:23</a>), daughter of Amminadav, of the tribe of Judah (<a class="lbsBibleRef" href="http://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/Num%201.7" target="_blank">Num 1:7</a>). "/ (In relation to all of Israel so not exactly on the spacific subject of Levitical priests but wanted too note) " <a class="lbsBibleRef" href="http://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/Judges%2021.1" target="_blank">Judges 21:1</a>? Why make such a vow if this rule was already in effect from years ago?" - benyosef</em></p>