How do you feel about islams view of the black race ? ? ?

 

Do You consider islam to be Racist ?

 

Do You recognize the stereotypes and labels used by mohammad ?

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Mishkat, v. iii, p. 117

"Abu Darda reported that the Holy Prophet said: Allah created Adam when he created him (sic). Then He stroke (sic) his right shoulder and took out a white race as if they were seeds, and He stroke (sic) his left shoulder and took out a black race as if they were coals. Then He said to those who were in his right side: Towards paradise and I don't care. He said to those who were on his left shoulder: Towards Hell and I don't care. - Ahmad"


 HaSatan is black?

 

Ishaq: 243 "I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful punishment."

«يُخَرِّبُ الْكَعْبَةَ ذُو السُّوَيْقَتَيْنِ مِنَ الْحَبَشَةِ وَيَسْلُبُهَا حِلْيَتَهَا وَيُجَرِّدُهَا مِنْ كِسْوَتِهَا، وَلَكَأَنِّي أَنْظُرُ إِلَيْهِ أُصَيْلِعَ وَ أُفَيْدِعَ يَضْرِبُ عَلَيْهَا بِمِسْحَاتِهِ وَمِعْوَلِه»

(Dhus-Sawiqatayn from Ethiopia will destroy the Ka`bah and will loot its adornments and cover. It is as if I see him now: bald, with thin legs striking the Ka`bah with his ax.) Tafsir Ibn Kathir

("Sirah Rasool Allah compiled by) Ibn Ishaq-  Hadith relates to [Surah 9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's. (Black men have hearts grosser than a donkey's?)

 

 

Arabic

Today in Saudi Arabia the heart of Islam, the common word for "black slave" is "Abd".

The word for slave - Abid - became a colloquialism for African. Other words such as Haratin express social inferiority of Africans.

 

Islam created a inslt to blacks when their sources claim that Ham's descendants were black due to a curse of their father. This is One place that muhammad shows his ignorance of what earlier scriptures put forth. These theories have made it into other religious circles when people ask if the black race is due to a curse. This is an INSULT to all blacks everywhere.

 

 

Tabari II:21 (Decendants of Noah)

"Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them." (Arabs to enslave Africans)

 

This is an obvious perversion of Gen.9:25-27. (Curse of Canaan)

Not only is this clear cut Racisim but is an ignorant way of speaking on the orgin of race which show Muhammad doesn't even understand creation. (sleeping with your fathers wife (mother) is a flithy sin but not the beginning or reason for the black race)

  

mohammad owned black slaves, he traded 2 black slaves for one non-black slave that had pledged allegiance.

 

Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man) - Sahih Muslim 10:3901

 

Let negro slave perish, let no help come to him if he be pierced by thorne

* If he asks for anything it shall not be granted if he needs intercession to get to paradise his intercession will be denied - Bukhari Vol.4 Book 52 #137

(Surah 39:60)
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Muhammad calls (labels) Eithiopians (blacks) "rasin heads"

Sahih Al Bukhari Vol.1 Book 11 #662

 

Notice the different hadiths:

In Hadith (Sahih Moslem) Mohammed is quoted as saying, "you must obey the Imam (leader) even if he was a pug-nosed slave" (Here the translation for black is slave).

<Keep in mind Muslims qualify the Bukhari hadith as the devine words of the prophet so its obvious I am pointing out the racists intentions within the different scolars instead of my own!

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."

<Here we see BOTH in such a insulting way as to support that blacks are to be slaves

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief."

 

Some say that Sahih Muslim says: "Blacks will steal when hungry; when cloy (full) they are promiscuous", even though i have not been able to locate the exact documentation.

This is racism

 

 

(Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Qadi ‘Iyad, p.375)

Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed."

 

Sahih Al Bukhary "while we were sitting with the Prophet, a man came and said, 'who amongst you is Mohammed?' We replied, 'this white man reclining on his arm…" (Why was color the focuss, instead of being Arab?)

 

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black women

dreams of black women were a bad sign (of coming sickness)

 

Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai'a, i.e., Al-Juhfa. I interpreted that as a symbol of epidemic of Medina being transferred to that place (Al-Juhfa)." - Sahih Bukhari 9:87:161-163

 

"If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth -in no other peculiarity or property - except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent."- Nasir al-Din al-Tusi, Shia Muslim Scholar (1201-74, Tasawwurat /Rawdat al-Taslim

 

black is a negative in islam, not only black people. A black dog perverts muslim prayers and blocks them from allah and considered a devil. So you should start over if in the presence of a black dog just as if a woman was in front of you during prayer.

From Bukhari Vol. 1, #490

Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""

From Muslim Number 1032

Abu Dharr reported: The Messenger of 'Allah said: When any one of you stands for prayer and there is a thing before him equal to the back of the saddle that covers him and in case there is not before him (a thing) equal to the back of the saddle, his prayer would be cut off by (passing of an) ass, woman, and black Dog. I said: O Abu Dharr, what feature is there in a black dog which distinguish it from the red dog and the yellow dog? He said: O, son of my brother, I asked the Messenger of Allah as you are asking me, and he said: The black dog is a devil.

From Abu Dawud Number 0704:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

Ikrimah reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas, saying: I think the Apostle of Allah said: When one of you prays without a sutrah, a dog, an ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a woman cut off his prayer, but it will suffice if they pass in front of him at a distance of over a stone's throw.

 

From Abu Dawud #2839

Abd Allah B. Mughaffal reported the apostle of Allah as saying: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one.

The Hadith's note for #2839 says, "The prophet did not order the killing of all the dogs, for some are to be retained for hunting and watching. He ordered to kill the jet black ones. They might be more mischievous among them.

From Muslim #3813

Abu Zubair heard Jabir Abdullah saying: Allah's messenger ordered us to kill dogs and we carried out this order so much so that we also killed the dog roaming with a women from the desert. Then Allah's apostle forbade their killing. He said: "It is your duty to kill the jet-black (dog) having two spots (on the eyes) for it is a devil.

 1400 yrs of slavery in islam (English subtitles)

Pt1 http://youtu.be/Ki_i2GDm3N8

Pt2 http://youtu.be/3VIX8knwgUc

Pt3 http://youtu.be/mFfVH4CtOFE

Islam's 1400 Years of Brutal Black Slavery 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuGHKz2yRtk 

 

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/saudi-arabia-the-middl...

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Hazart Bilal (Ibn Rabah) was a Eithiopian slave (black). How do you compare that to the comments I quoted about such a person (* above)? I'm not claiming the sources say blacks cant be muslim! My questions were:
How do you feel about islams view of the black race ? ?http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Racism ?
Do You consider islam to be Racist ?
(please support your comments with islamic texts whenever possible)
Do You recognize the seteriotypes and labels used by mohammad ?

Itend to compare this to the quotes i posted above about such a person.
Allow me to reflect on ONE of those quotes again!

"You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."

muhammad said to Bilal, "You have been granted precedence in heaven" which would perhaps lead some to compare this to Bukhari Vol.4 Book 52 #137

compare that to the conversation between Bilal and mohammad:
"Muhammad PBUH saw Hazrat Bilal (RA) was smiling at him and Prophet Muhammad PBUH asked :" O my beloved companion , Bilal (RA) , why are you smiling , is that because I had given you a high post or muslims are now richer or you are happy and statisfied with your situations now ? "
Bilal reply " No NO not for that reasons ... I am happy because Hidayat or guidances was *****not given and controlled by *you Prophet of Allah , instead Allah the one holds that Hidayat and guided whom he love and deserved for Hidayat , and gave him hidayat , IF you prophet Of Allah had given you the authority of Hidayats , then I would be the *****last person be given Hidayat , you would had given it to all your uncles , tantes , nephews , nieces and your whole clans before you finally come to me , but thanks Allah , allah is the one who controls it and Allah had given me hidayats before the whole of Arabia and your clans , I am the first few and previliaged to be among those who believed through yourself Prophet of Allah , that is the reason , I am statisfied and pleases and smiles O prophets of Allah ".

Can you feel the love in the air?

He knew that Muhammad saw him as second class.

Muslim teacher says no black women wanted in heaven http://youtu.be/S8lhuMG1fbQ

Found this on a Website:

The Hadiths are just as ridiculous as the Jewish Talmud. There both written by men to fit a certain bias. Both contradict what the Holy Books actually records. Because nowhere in the Koran does it say that God created one race white and gave them paradise and the other black giving them hell. That sounds like a bias interpretation from a Muslim heretic who probably had slaves just like the Christians did during that time period.

Now, as a African American Woman, I normally do not even dignify this type of asinine and idiotic behavior but, I did read the headlines, and thought I should chime in. This is actually, some of the propaganda that Society as a Whole spreads unwaveringly. There is Definitely ignorance and raw fear of people of African Decent. It was in the beginning in the camp of Yisrael with Moshe(Moses) and the Ethiopian Woman, and unfortunately, it is still relevant and ubiquitous Globally.

I think being African American is 'liked unto:' Being a Believer in Yeshua Ha Mashiach... Although, you have a very obvious and formidable opponent are you to succumb to its attacks...CERTAINLY NOT! I will do as my ancestors before me have done, I will put my faith in Yahweh, Pray for His guidance, and use the stones that others have thrown at us to build a Spiritual house in which, to persevere!! 1 Peter 2:5  You also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to Yahweh by Yeshua Ha Mashiach.
Shalom~Aleichem! Hallelu-Yah!!

Islam depends on hadiths as much as rabbinic Judaism respects Talmud ("oral Torah"). No where in the quran does it say to pray 5 times a day and that is a foundation within islam. To say that there is an islam seperate from hadiths is to call all the scholars of islam and members of islam that hold the hadiths not to be muslim. While muslims like to pick and choose which hadiths they consider to be true any muslim that has studied islam long embraces some collection of hadiths. In islam muslims dont carry the concept of individuals having revelation by way of the Holy Spirit but rather hold up the authority of the scholars and elders, prophets, and companions of muhammad as authoritive. Im sure they are some muslims somewhere that will say they only need quran however why is it that the hadiths are writtings held by the scholars of islam? (hadiths are written by companions of muhammad, so if nothing else we at least need to ask why they were so racist)

http://madworldnews.com/liberal-praise-muhammad-ali/ Mona Walter is an ex-Muslim Somali activist who wants to know why black lives don’t matter to black liberals who are praising the death of a man who converted to the religion that’s enslaved hundreds of millions of her people.

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