Sura 4 (An-Nisa') verse 24 Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs

 

(And all married women (are forbidden unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess) of captives, even if they have husbands in the Abode of War, after ascertaining that they are not pregnant, by waiting for the lapse of one period of menstruation. (It is a decree of Allah for you) that which I have mentioned to you is unlawful in Allah's Book. (Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned) as unlawful, (so that ye seek them) marry (with your wealth) up to four wives; it is also said that this means: so that you buy with your wealth captives; and it is also said that this means: so that you should seek with your money marrying women for an agreed period of time (zawaj al-mut'ah) but the lawfulness of this practice was later abrogated, (in honest wedlock) He says: be with them as legitimate husbands, (not debauchery) not indulging in adultery without having a proper marriage. (And those of whom) after marriage (ye seek content) from whom you derive benefit, (give unto them their portions) give to them their full dowry (as a duty) as an obligation upon you from Allah to give the dowry in full. (And there is no sin for you) there is no harm for you (in what ye do by mutual agreement) in increasing or decreasing the amount of the dowry by mutual agreement (after the duty hath been done) after the first obligation to which you have aspired. (Lo! Allah is ever Knower) in relation to making lawful to you marriage for an agreed, limited period of time, (Wise) in later making this practice unlawful; it is also said that this means: Allah is ever Knower of your compulsion for marriage for an agreed, limited period of time, Wise in making such marriage unlawful.

 This is called Mutta. Its nothing less than religious prostitution. You pay a woman to agree on a set amount of time for you to be joined together as husband and wife (temporary relations). Just a way to condone one night stands (for money). Not all sects of islam accept mutta. Sunni muslims say it isnt for today Shia say it is.

So muslims:

1) can have 4 wives

2) can engage in religious prostitution

3) can beat their wives

4) can get away with rape of women (seeing as a womans testimony is half that of a man she better have another witness)

5) are told that women have half the inteligence of men

6) are told that women make up the majority of those in hell

 

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Quran verse 4:34 gives men right to strike their women if they even think their women will step out of line.

 

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE/ in islam

 

Different english translations:

Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme. Dawood[2]

 

Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great. Pickthall[3]

 

Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great. Arberry[4]

 

Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. Shakir[5]

 

Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whom part you fear disloyalty and ill conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance) for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all). Ali[6]

 

*****Women in islam***

Is this how muslims honestly think they should get respect and order in their marriages? Muslim women are told they have half brain (vid below), half the testimony of a man (which means if they get rapped they need at least on other witness to testify against the man), and they are told they make up the majority in hell.

 

Al Baqara 2:282 O ye who believe! When ye deal with each other, in transactions involving future obligations in a fixed period of time, reduce them to writing Let a scribe write down faithfully as between the parties: let not the scribe refuse to write: as Allah Has taught him, so let him write. Let him who incurs the liability dictate, but let him fear His Lord Allah, and not diminish aught of what he owes. If they party liable is mentally deficient, or weak, or unable Himself to dictate, Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her. The witnesses should not refuse when they are called on (For evidence). Disdain not to reduce to writing (your contract) for a future period, whether it be small or big: it is juster in the sight of Allah, More suitable as evidence, and more convenient to prevent doubts among yourselves but if it be a transaction which ye carry out on the spot among yourselves, there is no blame on you if ye reduce it not to writing. But take witness whenever ye make a commercial contract; and let neither scribe nor witness suffer harm. If ye do (such harm), it would be wickedness in you. So fear Allah; For it is Good that teaches you. And Allah is well acquainted with all things. If ye are on a journey, and cannot find a scribe, a pledge with possession (may serve the purpose). And if one of you deposits a thing on trust with another, let the trustee (faithfully) discharge his trust, and let him Fear his Lord conceal not evidence; for whoever conceals it, - his heart is tainted with sin. And Allah knoweth all that ye do.

haha... just let any one of those "men" spend a single night with a real christian woman.. they wouldn't be able to consider themselves men for long if it were me i can tell you that!!!

 Is this to be considered respect for women?

 

In a Sharia state a woman isnt to go out in public without a male escort from her family. If she does she is asking to be raped :(

 

Muhammad hit Aisha (his woman/ child bride):

Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that she it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.
Bukhari (72:715) - "Aisha said, 'I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women'" This is Muhammad's own wife complaining of the abuse that the women of her religions suffer relative to other women.

Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."

Muslim (9:3506) - Muhammad's father-in-laws (Abu Bakr and Umar) amused him by slapping his wives (Aisha and Hafsa) for annoying him. According to the Hadith, the prophet of Islam laughed upon hearing this

Allah directs you in regard of your children's inheritance: to the male, a portion equal to that of two females.... These are settled portions ordained by Allah. [Q4:11]/  Bring to witness two witnesses from among your men. And if there are not two men, then a man and two women - so that if one women errs, then the other can remind her. [Q2:282]

Those who accuse their wives and have no witnesses except themselves, the evidence of the husband should be taken four times, bearing Allah to witness. [Q24:6]

And that Muhammad, the perfect Muslim, was incorrect when he is quoted in the hadiths (only authentic ones mentioned here) as stating:
► Mohammad's view of a woman's intelligence

Mohammad said (to the women): I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. [Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301] 

► Mohammad suggested that women should be beaten 

The Prophet said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife. [Abu Dawud 11:2142] 

Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and AS TO THOSE ON WHOSE PART YOU FEAR DESERTION, ADMONISH THEM, AND LEAVE THEM ALONE IN THE SLEEPING-PLACES AND BEAT THEM; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. [Q4:34]...... And TAKE IN YOUR HAND A BRANCH AND STRIKE THEREWITH YOUR WIFE, and break not your oath . Truly! We found him patient. How excellent a slave! Verily, he was ever oft-returning in repentance to Us! [Q38:41-44]

► Mohammad suggested that women are no better than prisoners

"You have rights over your wives and they have rights over you. You have the right that they should not defile your bed and that they should not behave with open unseemliness. IF THEY DO, GOD ALLOWS YOU TO PUT THEM IN SEPARATE ROOMS AND BEAT THEM but not with severity. If they refrain from these things they have the right to their food and clothing with kindness. Lay injunctions on women kindly, FOR THEY ARE PRISONERS WITH YOU HAVING NO CONTROL OF THEIR PERSONS. You have taken them as a trust from God, and you have the enjoyment of their persons by the words of God, so understand…" [Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, p. 651]......... ► Mohammad introduced the practice of Adult Suckling

In order to allow 'non-family' men to be in the presence of women Mohammad had commanded that women should allow men suck their breasts at least five times.

'A'isha reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail) came to Allah's Apostle and said: Salim has attained puberty as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something rankles in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle said to her: SUCKLE HIM AND YOU WOULD BECOME UNLAWFUL FOR HIM, and the rankling which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what was there in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared. [Sahih Muslim 8:3425]...... ► Mohammad compared women to various animals

Narrated 'Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs." [Sahih Bukhari 1:9:490]

texts quoted from "Answeringislam.org"

When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the young virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?' ( Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17)/ Surah 65:4

Aisha's age of being betrothed and having marriage consummated and the appropriate age a female should marry often not found translated into English
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