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Where do the scriptures agree on the subjects of the 1st and 2nd death /and/ 1st and 2nd resurrections or "rapture". Documentation is encouraged!

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1 Thess.5:1-3 "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

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Let it be known sometimes we may just have to agree to disagree. My aim is that this group will serve as a place of edification if it be according to the will of YHVH

I think the best way of going about this subject which has so many scriptures (that we need to find where they agree) is to cover one area (or subject) of Scripture at a time rather than everyone post drawn out blogs (one step at a time/ Fishers of men).If any spiritual growth takes place here let it be known such isn't something man should take credit for. May the Word be the focuss here.
My blog on this subject can be found -->HERE<--
 
I do encourage documentation and for each of us to consider the documentation others bring to the table, for truth stands the test and may we all seek to edify and edification in the character of a Christian


No 2 people agree on all things all the time nor are any 2 always at the same stage of their spiritual journey, respect other individuals.
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The Mark of the Beast? 5 Replies

How do you see the (negative) mark…Continue

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Started by William H.. Last reply by William H. Jun 1, 2016.

2 Thessalonians 2 1 Reply

2 Thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech…Continue

Started by William H.. Last reply by William H. Feb 12, 2014.

Duties of the candlesticks during the tribulation 2 Replies

God's election will have a job to do during the time of the great Apostacy so why would they fly away before then? In Matt.24, Mark13 and Luke21 we have a order that is not by chance Tribulation…Continue

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What is soul sleep? 1 Reply

Okay I will share my responce, Open discussion Study! Feel Free to share and or comment.…Continue

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Started by William H.. Last reply by William H. Sep 15, 2009.

What are the basics of your stance?

When it comes to the term "Rapture" I don't like using it because it is a common title(label) used to describe a false teaching- "pre trib"(I acknowledge that others may see such as truth) no…Continue

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Started by William H. Sep 12, 2009.

1st Thess.4:13-18

1st Thess.4:13-18/ 13)But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep (/physically dead/), that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope /Luke 24:5/.14)For…Continue

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Started by William H. Sep 11, 2009.

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Comment by William H. on January 29, 2016 at 4:22pm

Comment by His_Will on July 30, 2014 at 10:43pm

Stand with our persecuted brothers and sisters in Iraq, Syria,... Africa... and world wide! Do not remain silent.

Comment by His_Will on November 13, 2013 at 1:26pm

Comment by His_Will on November 22, 2010 at 6:39pm

Lk.22:31-36
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Satan desired to decieve Simon yet Christ desired that Peter would stand in trails and tribulations(against the devil) that he would be found grounded on The ROCK (not to fly away) and to go forth and strengthen the brethern. Peter desired to take up his cross unto death not to escape tribulation or "rapture away" but rather to stand bold as Jesus his model had been known to do. Christ responded by telling Peter he still had much growth to embrace. vs.35-36 speaks about how Peter knew not real tribulation while Christ was with him, but that when he is sent forth that first he shall acquire a Sword (The Sword of truth). ("it is finished" - Christ the WORD is that sword) / Some like to point to Lk.21:34-36 out of context on the subject of "Rapture". Ask them to compare it to Jn.17:14-19 (Lk.12:5)/ The elect are sealed and dont fit the discription of those in vs. 34. Those who are sealed escape that which comes on all cause they are armed to do so.
Comment by His_Will on November 15, 2010 at 11:15pm

Comment by William H. on July 12, 2010 at 5:45pm
Rev.6:8 One Fourth of population killed

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Rev.9:15 One Third parth of mankind SLAYED

And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

One Forth of 100 = 25 leaving 75
75 minus one third equals 50
Altogether you can say up to one hafe of the World's population is killed in these two verses
Comment by William H. on September 22, 2009 at 7:00am
Mark 13:20 ;)
Comment by William H. on September 17, 2009 at 10:00am
Thanks Rick and glad that you joined the group,May God use you as an instrument to open others eyes to the truth on this vital subject in this generation:) I agree and Amen/ I'm glad we have an area where we can get around to covering the subject throught the Word in discussion and study with others.
Comment by Rick Kelly on September 17, 2009 at 5:27am
Hi Labrock,
I use to teach the Rapture 'Theory' years ago, but with further reading of the scriptures I found I was in TOTAL error. I was taught about the rapture when I was a babe in CHRIST.(1973). It sounded great then, what a wonderful GOD, who takes his people out of harms way. But the more I studied, the more I realized it just wasn't true.
It is not logical for the Lord to teach us to put on the whole armour of GOD so that we can stand. Eph. 6:13. And then take us out of the way.
Also GOD is against those that say your soul will fly away with JESUS. Ezek. 13:20.
Again it says we will be changed after the last trump. 1Cor. 15:51&52. It would be very difficult to have the last trump before the tribulation.
Of course there are many more scriptures to prove the Rapture in error.

In the service of JESUS
.Rick.
Comment by William H. on September 14, 2009 at 10:03pm
Leading up to that area we are given the seals Luke 21:8-, that are to be compared to Matt. 24, Mark 13 Rev 6 and 8.

Armagedon = gathering place. (some only point to the valley of Megedo just a stones throw away,but that is missing the point). We are speaking of that which leads up to the 2nd Advent of Christ and the anti shall come before the true Christ. This is the great Apostacy that shall decieve those of the World. We are told what the famine is of vs.11- Amos 8:11/
***2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
Matthew 24:15-26 (King James Version)

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25Behold, I have told you before.

26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

This "holy place" IS Jerusalem (The Holy Mount.) The gathering place. Those who are impregnated are those who bare the mark of the beast. The Impregantion represents the forhead which represents Spirit, they embrace the ideologies and deseption of the Enemy. to give suck is to nurse such along with works which represents the hand. They are decieved and doing the works of the enemy. Far from a relationship with Christ and haveing the seal of God.
The calling here is to seperate yourself from such. Just as in Exodus of Egypt the people were told to flee quick. It shows where ones priorities are.
We are later told that we will be delivered up to this one reguardless and at that time we have a job to do! Note loved ones will deliver loved ones to this wicked one for they will be decieved and embrace this wicked one as Christ.
Too many people are seeking peace in the Holy Land and will note sound the trumpet when the fake peace comes but will embrace it instead.
Christ's Kingdom is Not of this World. All will be in Spirit form when Jerusalem is the captial of the Kingdom.
 

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