http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia ;

http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=di... (protect and serve?) 

Discernment doesn't stop at the government (beast system).

The law (government) of man comes 2nd to The Law of God.

We the people are NOT the government.

The people are Not the first priority of the government. National pride can be a snare. 

(check the thread "Good = Bad/ Bad = Good?"!) 

All earthy kingdoms will serve the anti prior to arrival of Moshiach.

We are told that man will set up the one world system (NWO), it will recieve a deadly wound, and that this wound will be healed and the system will serve the wicked one who comes (with observation) disguised as one of light and will decieve all those OF the world and if it were possible even the elect. This antichrist comes before the true Christ and with the substance those of the world seek (Peace and Prosperity), all u will have to do is embrace (worship) Him and His ways (system). 

(2 Cor.11:14-15/2 Thess.2:3-12/Rom.12:2/ Mat.13:22/ Matt.24:24/ Dan.7/ Rev.13/ Dan.11:21-32)

Those who embrace the beast system will be among those who embrace the apostacy in spirit and works. They will be given a false sense of security (peace). The message of the apostacy is like that of pre trib doctrine: just come unto me (the anti) and all will be well, when we have already been warned not to Lk.17:21,23
Many sadly point to Rom.13:1-7 to claim God's people are to blindly trust and follow the government in Every way no matter what.
When it comes to The KINGDOM (phy./spiritual) of God, the power structure is set up by God and executes God's judgements. Elohim means Devine Judgement and consists of all instruments (The Many Membered Body) of The LORD. In days of the temple the Levitical priests  (& Judes) were the government (Deut.17:9) and were to execute G-D's Law. These nations are messured by God's Word and effected by it in their relationship with him. Ps:118:8
Rom.12:17-21
Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

God's will always comes to pass thus fulfilling The WORD. We are told of the One World System and it's role, it's not all pleasent and even plays into the apostacy. There is a saying "Go for the head of the snake". (Jn.19:10-11)
Rom.13:1-7
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. (Matt.10:28/ Lk.12:4-5) Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. *Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; *fear to whom fear; *honour to whom honour.
God uses whomsoever He will (Discernment between clean and unclean spirits is a gift). Those who are choosen (and or called) are given knowledge of how to be fruitful instruments and when devoted in Faith, Nothing can prosper against them. All Praise To YHVH.
Satan Attempted to tempt Yeshua (Jesus).
Matt.4:8-10
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Jn.18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence

(1 Tim.6:13-15/Dan.2:44/ Dan.7:14/ Rev.11:15/ Rev.17:14)
God's elect in the end times have a job to do and they need not be told what that job is for they Know how to recognize The Holy Spirit (sword of truth) and it will be The WORD of The LORD that moves on the enemy.

Eph.6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places  
Ps.118:8
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Ex.7:1
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (O.T.-Elohim) to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet (Ex.15:24/ Ex.16:8,9,11)

Elohim- devine judge/ Note: Moses didnt blindly follow the government which was one of idol worship and against The Almighty and His people.
Acts.5:29
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men 

We are to respect the fact that God is in control and pay attention to the order of any given land while discerning its Role in the The Blueprint. Again The LORD is More than aware of what is going on and notice how as any nation embraces God it is blessed or as they stray they recieve effects. This is but another good reason to grow in your Personal Relationship with The Father.

1 Pet.2:13-17
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. *Honour all men. *Love the brotherhood. *Fear God. Honour the king.(Rom.13:7)
We know that The Law of God is above the law of man. We are to honor the order and laws of the land 2nd to the Way's of God. We are told to love The LORD our God and not to have any other gods but him.

*****Note: The Greek word translated punishment in vs.14 is ekdikesis and just so happens to be the same term used in Acts.7:24 where Moses avenged one of his people from mistreatment by Egyptian soilder of the local Government. Many may not see the value of this seeing as i have heard some "preach" that Moses was a "murderer" cause he slew (killed) this Roman soilder, not knowing that the commandment uses the Hebrew word for murder and the act of moses the word for kill (More). 1 Pet.2:12 the believers are being told to conduct themselves in a postive way among the nations that the nations will note their fruits and Praise Him! 

In the story of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego we see an example of the law of man coming 2nd to that of God! King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon had made an idol and demanded that all people in the region bow down to it. They refused and vowed to only worship The LORD. The responce by the king was to cast them into a fiery furnace. The power of God delievered them from harm to show that their God was in fact The LORD.

Daniel, Joseph, Yeshua, Sampson,... and more all were subjected to trails by governments and found gulity yet were given victory in YHVH! 


Lk.20:22 Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no?
vs.25 And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.
Jn.15:18-19/ Jn.17:14/ 1 Jn3:13

1 Cor.6:1-11/ Ex.18:15-27/Matt.7:1-6 May God Bless those who serve and protect The People. Thank you to all who stand (serve) against enemies both foreign and domestic. The solution isn't in the ballot box. His Will Be Done ^1.

The stranger in Israel was to live under Torah Law just as its citizens Ex.12:49/ Num.15:15-16

usa tares <-- are the answers to questions the government leaves unanswered signs of a sinister plan? <0> 

 rahm emanuel never let a crisis go to waste http://youtu.be/1yeA_kHHLow

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Comment by His_Will on June 6, 2013 at 10:21am

Comment by William H. on December 26, 2012 at 12:46am

National PRIDE

I have love for 1/The moral (Torah) foundations of the usa 2/("we the) people",  and 3/the fruitful land, but as far as the Political games go I see no bigger threat to our rights than domestic enemies in washington (lead of spiritual wickedness). I see our government officals shaming those who have fought for this land and our freedom and we the people clearly arent their first priority. I see anyone who puts blind faith in the system (man) as enablers of the darkness that is creeping in. Im glad to live where i live but do not put my confidence in man.

* Lk 4:5-8* 

Another look at Rom.13 since it remains a highlight on the subject.

ROM.13:1-7

1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

(Note those nations that stray from God recieve effects for that rebellion!)

2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

( This includes washington. The usa was founded upon The righteous Law of God. To resist this order has always resulted in damnation weather it be rebellion of an individual or a nation.)

3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

(Notice the standard is to do what is Good and not rebellion)

4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake

( We dont base our aligance and support upon fear of recieving wrath (alone/ and or Mans wrath) but we shall strive to be lead of The Spirit. Some ignorantly say you should blindly submit to the government even if they go against your faith in the LORD for they have the power. This is a Dangerous ideology and is in transgression of the greatest of all commandments)

 6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

(Rulers by the hand of God are just that. God is to recieve all the glory. He has often used earthly rulers to relay a message and call his people away from an earthly order to trusting in Him FIRST and Alone)

7* Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. 

Comment by His_Will on December 20, 2012 at 6:00am

Are people putting man in place of God? Does the fourth beast stand for the Torah/Gospel OR Baal? Is Uncle Sam a type of Baal? The law of Man comes 2nd to the law of God. Trust in YHVH

 

The Godless would rather embrace an uncle Sam that will justify their sins. The outcasts have become those who put the standards of God first. Uncle Sam gives you a postion in the world when you serve him. He can give you bread, shelter, health care, "freedom" or he can take your freedom, break down your ability you support (feed, house) yourself, ..... Who do you serve? (Matt.6:24/Rom.12:18/ Col.2:8,14,15,20,22,23 )

Comment by His_Will on November 13, 2012 at 4:23pm

Comment by His_Will on November 9, 2012 at 7:29pm

When one realizes "we the people" are Not the government (and that the government is rebellious to God)one has to ask thierself:

Can we exspect a currupt government to regulate itself in a honorable way? Thats like depending on congress to determine weather they deserve a pay raise or not. They constantly vote themselves pay raises. The Supreme court "justices" dont have to answer to the people they are selected by the republic (for life). If the people were the government they would be able to make congress more productive or recieve less pay and threaten the jobs of supreme Court justices. (means nation in distress)

Canidates say what they will when campaning (not that i put faith in the election process), The peoples well being come second to political agendas, This white house couldn't give a straight story about what happened on 9/11/12 in Lybia. They gave two different stories of what happened with osama destroying all evidence.... "If we lie to the government it's a crime. If the government  lies to us it's politics."- unknown Recall when obama went around congress to lead our military into war within Libya against the us constitution by clamming he did so according to international law (UN) which didnt have to regard the constitution? The UN (headquarters) building in NY has a statue in front that clearly shows their agenda against our 2nd Amendment rights. 

The "Justice" department during obamas reign was totally corrupt.Many feel confident that obama upon 2nd term will further anti 2nd amendment agendas and directly following his re-election the subject has become one of much interest. There are currently UN efforts (UN  Arms Trade Treaty) that are rooted in a (1961) State Department memorandum which explains how the United Nations will oversee "complete disarmament" of the American people under the ruse of preventing war. Obama in the past has exspressed intentions to make changes to gun laws and some claim he is determined to sign this treaty into law (again with complete disreguard for the constitution). Constitution in my face,” “It's just a G--D----- piece of paper!”

Comment by His_Will on November 6, 2012 at 2:26pm

Comment by His_Will on November 5, 2012 at 2:31am
Comment by JOSEPH on April 28, 2012 at 11:13am
What has been stated is true. I notice the Illuminati mentioned, how many know of this organization and the skull & Bones, to name just a few ?.
Those in high places who have great power from WEALTH, and are really the power behind the powers.

If someone out here knows about the U.N. treaty just signed, would you please share it with me . I believe GOD is in control with all my heart, but we are to be watchmen and
know the seasons, Can someone tell me if we should continue to write our political officials given our views, or to we not bother ? PLEASE I NEED SOME GUIDANCE, PLEASE HELP
Comment by Erin Julia on February 10, 2012 at 2:16pm

nothing like validation straight from the mouth of a twelve year old. no surprise she's smarter than apparently ALL of the so-called "professionals" in this area of study lol

Comment by His_Will on February 10, 2012 at 3:14am

Could it be More Evidence that the elction process is controled by those who run this nation from behind the scenes? Could it be that the options at the ballot box are given by the system. The heads of the republic control the election process which is baisically just another way to keep the people with the impression they have some say. ...

Illuminati? Serpents? Tares? or members of The House of Israel?

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