Roots of evil!

[William H.]

1 Tim.6:10 A root Not "the" root of all evil. (what did money have to do with the sin in the garden? Whats money got to do with adultry, homosexuality, blasphemy.....? Curses
Money isn’t even the subject, “the love of money”is.

Is. 45:7 (KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil (rah): I the LORD do all these things.

In the English the main use of the term evil is to mention wickedness. The Hebrew term here is : ra’ (rah)/It has many uses, amoung the defintions you will see- adversity, calamity, distress, mischief, evil, wickedness Displeasure, wrong, misery....#7451 Strongs!/ much like the Greek- Tumult (Tu-malt) – Disorder, opposition

Opposition is required for free will.  Can’t force righteousness can’t force love and we were Not created as preprogrammed obedient robots. Individuals give life to "evil" (opposition) within themselves. G-d is not in opposition to himself or our success. He gave us free will that we may define our character are connection to The Almighty. Love has to come from within the individual just as evil does. G-d allows for the Knowledge of good and "evil" (rah/opposition). He condemns the fruit of evil. Its your choice through free will (which requires opposition) if you embrace and bring forth fruit of the knowledge of opposition (sin). It only leads to death and curses. Your Choice: Life and blessings/ curses and Death. All will come before the throne of judgement. 1Love

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With the knowledge of Good and Evil we have Options which lead to cause and effect. Those who are familure with the meat of God's Word know that there were two arch angels that were given the responsibility of covering (guarding) the mercy seat (throne of Mashiach) at the right hand of YHVH. These two being Michael and Lucifer. These two earned this position. However one (Lucifer) decided to sit in the mercy seat claiming its authority instead of honouring it (Is.14:12-14/ Eze.28:14-16). The postions of Messiah (Yeshua/ Jesus). Metaphor (Over the Gospel).

This happened in the 1st earth age before the spirits of mankind took on flesh (Gen 1:26). (I suggest study on the earth ages). Lucifer was not created evil. Lucifer HIMSELF gave life to evil from within himself (Spirit and Works). His pride is his downfall and He is the only one already condemned to perish by name (Is.14/ Eze.28:19). Sadly with the authority he Was given he had an abundance of knowledge and soon had a patten on "evil" and with all the knowledge of a cherubim he presented this ideology to all the hosts of heaven. In Judaism there are 3 books opened and closed at the "Jewish" new year. These are known as:

1) The Book Of Life

2) The Book of Death

3) The Book of Those Inbetween 

These are symbolic of the individual reactions to Lucifer's claiming of the authority of Mashiach in the 1st earth age.

1) A very small portion stood firm with YHVH and His blueprint (The Elect)

Everywhere predestination is mentioned the Elect are the subject and their will in more in line with that Of YHVH and YHVH reserves the right to interfere more in their lives (will).

2) A portion were zealous to embrace Lucifer's self proclaimed authority as Mashiach. (The Enemy)

3) The rest are known as The "Lukewarm" (fine as long as they have what they want and aren't bothered)

At this time YHVH could have destroyed all souls in rebellion Yet He is longsuffering (2 Pet.3:9)!

Instead YHVH's blueprint in this (2nd) earth age was that all would be born of waters (woman/ flesh) to decide who and what they would embrace. God wants our Love (Hosea 6:6) and for this reason we were created (Rev.4:11 to give him pleasure/ are you giving God pleasure?), thus YHVH didnt make us pre-programed to Love him. LOVE has to come from within and yet the opposer has introduced the ideology and action of straying from YHVH as he has from with in (Spirit and Works).

 Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

All have sinned (1 exception Yeshua/ Jesus).

1 Jn.1:8 (vs.1-8)/(Rom. 3:23/(Is.64:6)/ Is. 53:6/) **Rom.7:14-25
/Ps.14:3/ Rom.3:9-10/ Ecc.7:20/ Rom.5:12/ Rom.3:20 

The effect of sin is death ever since the first transgression (Rom.5:12).  Now each has need of embracing the tree of Life (Mashiach) from within and it is YHVH who knows our hearts and It is he who draws individuals to Salvation that they may have a part in the eturnal kingdom (3rd earth age).... 

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Matt.5:39 KJV "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." 

Resist not evil? Such a translation would go against all scripture if we just used the mainstream general use of the term evil.

The subject in this area is ministry! Christ is speaking to His disciples about what it is to be a disciple (Vs.5:1)The proper context is Resist not hardships (harm). We as fishers of men are to look for and or draw interest to truths. While it is lawful (Vs.38-39) that one recieve that which he sows & the natural reaction would be to strike back, this would not be fruitful for a disciplein serving the LORD. This confirms people get what they give (Matt.6:14-15/ Matt.5:44/ Lk.6:28/ Mk.11:25/ Matt.18:21-35) (Matt.10:16)

What is sin? 1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
When we look at the book of Job we see his friends viewed the works of Lucifer as the works of God. This angered Our Father. One should beware of blaimg God for wickedness.

***** James 1:13-15
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn awayof his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. (Matt.6:13 )

Those who study the Word know to NEVER say the burden of the Lord and what the effects are of such. * Jer.23:33-40/ Ps.55:22/ 2 Cor. 12:7-10/

David says in Psalm 5:4-5
4For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
5The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Dont know about others but if someone tells me they dont want me around, I don't want to hang around. This is how I see the above documenation rather than saying "God Can't Look On sin" as many seem to like to claim. The Word openly shows The LORD telling many how he see's their transgressions. Other verses that people interprete to make this claim:Is.59:2 (Ex.33:20) Ps.66:18 Hab.1:13 .... GOD sees All Pro.15:3/ Job.34:29 ....

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There are those who ignorantly claim that the sons of God (angels) can't (never) rebel against God that they only submit (a claim i hear those with little knowledge in Judaism/Hebrew). Well depends what context of "angel" one is using. "Angel" meaning messenger would be in the context of submission of relaying a message or act from a higher authority Yet "angel" in the context of a spiritual being of the spirit realm without flesh is another context and we have biblical evidence of rebellion amoung these. Gen.6 mentions Fallen angels that rather than being born of woman they came and impregnated the daughters of men which lead to the flood of Noah. This was a great rebellion and these Fallen angels are described as being reserved unto the day of judgement. We have Obvious rebellion of Lucifer again in Is.14 Eze.28 and he will come in this role to earth as well 2 Thess 2:3-4.

HaSatan- Accuser, Adversary, Opposer (to obsruct, oppose, accuse)

Translated accuser without mentioning Lucifer: Num.22:22 (Angel of The LORD) /1 Sam 29:4 <p>Used as a Negative Translated Satan in KJV:

 Job 1-2/ Zech.3:1-2/

Negative Diabolos translated Satan: <p>1 Chr.21:1/ Ps.109:6

General Adversary:

1 Kings 5:4/ 1 kings 11:14, 23, 25

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We can look at Lucifer's prideful ways as an example of what not to do. One of the devil's names is Death!

Hebrews 2:1414Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

To stray from YHVH from within is to embrace death. Seek and Ye shall find.
Some have been known to paraphrase the WORd and claim that God "CAN'T" look upon sin. I dont see this in the above verses nor in Is.59:2 or Ex.33:20. Many carry this thought over into perversions of Matt.27
Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 (Satans transgression)
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God./ **2 THESS.2:3 

Isaiah 14:12-14 (King James Version)
12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.(Isa.14:15-19) Satan's Pride is his downfall
Ez.28:2,6-7 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: ³Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: ⁴With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: ⁵By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches: ⁶Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; ⁷Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.
(Here in Eze. "the prince of Tyre" is clearly mentioning lucifer when you know of his downfall and the role of tyre/ as "king of babylon" king of confusion also points to satan.)


Lucifer was not made evil, he was given great responsibility and gifts.

(( Ez.28:12,15 -)) Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. /15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee He strayed ((turned)) away from God through Pride ((Eze.28 vs. 17 )) Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. ((Condemned to perish)) ¹⁸Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.  19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. So what have we learned? God created all with free will. You have the opportunity to embrace God or to turn away from God which is "evil"! It should becoming evident that one creates evil within ones own heart. What is in the heart comes out in ones actions. We are to be known by our fruits! Luke 11:4
4And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

Again the tree of knowledge of good and evil represents Lucifer, The tree of Life represents Christ./John 3:36 (Mal. 4:1)
This current earth age has effects from good and evil as well as effects of actions in the first age. This is not the kingdom. The day shall come when all tears are gone along with evil and suffering.

Satan's downfall --> video <-- 
In closing, I would like to refer you to gain understanding of :
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Matthew 6:13 (King James Version)
13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen ^1 suugest blog:"Don't blame God"

[His_Will]

When we read 1 Kings 22 (& 2 Chronicles 18) we see the Story of ahab's demize.

Ahab was allied with Jehoshaphat and they were seeking revelation on weather they should go to Ramothgilead to battle. They asked of all the prophets known to them and they said Go and prosper: for the Lord shall deliver it unto the kings hand. Jehoshaphat then asked is there any other prophets we can accuire of. Ahab responded with yes there is one but i Hate him for he doesnt give postive revelation concerning me. They aquired of him anyway, His name was Micaiah. Micaiah told him the truth. He said that the Lord aquired of the hosts of heaven how to entice Ahab into battle at Ramothfilead so that he would fall there. One spirit came before the LORD and said that he knew how to entice Ahab that he would use a lying spirit among his prophets. After the revelation Ahab spoke negatively of Mica The FALSE prophets spoke false hood yet Micaiah and sent him into look up with just bread and water to live in affliction until his return.

This isnt the only such place G-d also said he will send strong delusion on people that they believe a lie and the reason he gave for that is because they have no love of the truth. Seek and ye shall find! We are also told that some are given the spirit of stuper for a good reason cause G-D knows that if they knew the truth that they would still transgress and its said that those that transgress knowing better recieve more condemnantion (More stripes) than those that commit the same not knowig better so basically in such situations G-d is being patient with them and gonna send them through a strict learning process "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" or either he has little interest in them "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.""As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent." and " For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?"

Micaiah (which Ahab Hated) told the truth. So again Ahad had no love of the truth therefore believed a lie. Its no different that G-D allowing Satan to tempt king David to number Israel. Its no different than G-D allowing the serpent to tempt Eve. Its no different than G-D allowing Job's faith to be tested. Ahad hated the prophet of G-D (Micahaih) and rejected the truth he spoke. It was G-D's will that Ahad fall in the battle he fell. Just because G-D allows a lying spirit to come to one doesnt make G-d a liar. There is an effect for your choices. Ahab was given a choice believe the false prophets or believe Micaiah. Out of contempt he rejected Micaiah based on where his heart was and even then he still acknowledged Micaiah could have very well have been speaking the truth cause he went to the extreme as to disguise himself. Not only did he reject the truth he punished Micaiah for giving the truth.

We must be very careful Never to blame G-d for our burdens. People bring their own burdens upon themselves. Here is what G-d says to those who blame him for their burdens: .........."But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the LORD; Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence: And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten." So Be It!

[William H.]

A "Satanic Leaf Tailed Gecko". Seems like an appropreate name in relation to its extreme camouflage. Very subtil (Gen.3:1)

[William H.]

In the beginning how did HaSatan first approach (Adam) Eve? He began by attempting to raise doubt (encouraged Eve to consider/touch the forbidden fruit). Gen.3:1 "hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?".... "Ye shall not surely die"
Is.55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon./ 2 Cor.10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;/ Pro.9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. 2 Cor.11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

The ways of the Godly contrasting the ways of the wicked Proverbs.10-14:

Proverbs 10:24,28 The fear of the wicked, it shall come upon him: but the desire of the righteous shall be granted. The hope of the righteous shall be gladness: but the expectation of the wicked shall perish;

Proverbs 11:2,3,5,6,20,23,27 When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom. The integrity of the upright shall guide them: but the perverseness of transgressors shall destroy them. The righteousness of the perfect shall direct his way: but the wicked shall fall by his own wickedness. The righteousness of the upright shall deliver them: but transgressors shall be taken in their own naughtiness They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the Lord: but such as are upright in their way are his delight. The desire of the righteous is only good: but the expectation of the wicked is wrath. He that diligently seeketh good procureth favour: but he that seeketh mischief, it shall come unto him.; 

Proverbs 12:1,2,3,5,15 Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish. A good man obtaineth favour of the Lord: but a man of wicked devices will he condemn. A man shall not be established by wickedness: but the root of the righteous shall not be moved. The thoughts of the righteous are right: but the counsels of the wicked are deceit. The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

Proverbs 13:1 A wise son heareth his father's instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.  

Proverbs 14:2,12,14,15,16,22 He that walketh in his uprightness feareth the Lord: but he that is perverse in his ways despiseth him. There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. The backslider in heart shall be filled with his own ways: and a good man shall be satisfied from himself. The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident. Do they not err that devise evil? but mercy and truth shall be to them that devise good

[William H.]

To any that claim “angels” dont have free will: Angel's as in “messengers” have current agendas when bringing forth a message, and that is where their alligance is. It doesn’t change as long as they deliver the message. “Angels” as in “The Elohim” is divine judgement and to go against the will of HaShem would be lacking divine judgement and authority thus isn’t “Elohim”. The righteous have their will aligned with His Will.  As to the spiritual hosts of heavens that are these messengers. Nothing can happen against the will of HaShem for he created rah and allows for opposition. Nothing shall be lest HaShem first allows it to be. We have mention of these spirits (hosts/angels) being presented with choices throughout the scriptures and based on their choices they have either choosen to be intune with the will of G-d or to be in rebellion to His will (Gen.3:14, Matt.25:41, Jude1:6, Rev.12:4-9, Is.14(:14), Gen.6:2,4 Gen.19:1-3, *2 Cor.11:14-15....Job.1:6; 6:1,2,3,4... Job 38:7 ) Those who do that which is against the righteousness of Hashem are fallen (or Naphal and even called the nephilium) We have the concept of the choice suppiled to the spirits of heaven and earth with the model of the ark of the covenant. Plus who held Michael back? So the light supports its opposition? I think not

(Gen.6:4 The Nephilim: [They were called נְפִילִים because they fell (נָפְלוּ) and caused the world to fall (הִפִּילוּ) (Gen. Rabbah 26:7), and in the Hebrew language it means giants (Pirkei d’Rabbi Eliezer, ch. 22 and Targum Jonathan).).... Giants -nef-eel' -1) giants, the Nephilim/ Mighty men- Gibbor -powerful; by implication, warrior, tyrant:-- champion, chief, X excel, giant, man, mighty (man, one), strong (man), valiant man.

  We have the concept of the choice suppiled to the spirits of heaven and earth with the model of the ark of the covenant. IF you understand who the two are that cover/preserve/gaurd the mercy seat (postion of Moshiach/ the Word), then you may comprehend when you hear we are told that one of them in this high postion gave life to wickedness from Within (his pride). He being in the postion he was ("perfect") he had Great comprehension of the Word he easily then aquired this postion in perversion thereof (instead of gaurding the mercy seat he sat in it claiming authority thereof). Once he became full of himself (having a patent of the knowledge of good and evil) He presented this ideology to the hosts of heaven (and mankind) that they too may choose. Everywhere predestination is mentioned in the Word the Elect are the subject! -I believe- this is cause they have demonstrated their alligance to Reverance of G-d in Spirit and truth even prior to their physical entry. They simply align their will with his will thus have a direct connection to HaShem. Do with it what you will (Italics for those in the Meat) 

Ps.103:20-21 Bless the LORD 7 HIS Angels (messengers) THAT EXCEL in strength , that DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, Hearking unto the voice of HIS Word".... "ministers of his that do his pleasure"....Its spacifically mentioning angels that do His will.

2 Cor.11:14-15 ¹⁴ And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed (disguised) into an angel of light. <p>¹⁵ Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed (disguised) as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

2 Pet.2:4 mentions angels that sinned! <p>HaSatan means adversary which shows he isn’t for your growth in covenant. 

Depending on what HaShem reveals to an individual in truth compared to their fruits carries effects. That’s the whole reason we are given free will.  G-D hid his will or else you wouldn’t have free will. Even the wicked one can only do what he is allowed. Thus messengers (angels) are doing that which is allowed and thus that which is allowed is allowed according to His Will. https://www.facebook.com/100026533508130/posts/165000867727696/ 

[His_Will]

The LORD is righteous and just.
2 Sam.22:31 As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the Lord is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.

Ps.145:17 The Lord is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.

Deut.32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Job.34:10 Therefore hearken unto me ye men of understanding: far be it from God, that he should do wickedness; and from the Almighty, that he should commit iniquity.

[His_Will]

Proverbs 13:21 Evil pursueth sinners: but to the righteous good shall be repayed.

"evil" (ra'a) is often used to describe effect recieved unto a sinner for his choice (works) in judgement as in Amos 3:6; 5:13/ Isa.45:7/ Jer. 18:11/ Lam.3:38 (Amos 3:6 "done"- inflicted)

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@ Becki as to the relation of the 3 books in Judaisim, You can read about them in most any search (study) on the observances starting on Rosh Hashanah (books open) to Yom Kippur (books closed)/ "10 day of repentance". Some point to Revelation 20:12 on this subject as well!

Some also say just 1 book of life but 3 classifications within it:

character/ book

very wicked /death

righteous/ life

inbetween/ inbetween

 

Sorry, for late responce, didnt notice the question.

[His_Will]

Matt.18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

[Becki Studer]

In Judaism there are 3 books opened and closed at the "Jewish" new year. These are known as:

1) The Book Of Life

2) The Book of Death

3) The Book of Those Inbetween

 

 

Ah! This is what you meant in that other discussion. Do you have a link because I can't readily find anything about all of this?

 

Thanks!

[William H.]

Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.

[His_Will]

A Child doesn't carry the sins of their father (Parents) Each person sails their own ship and is responcible for their own embrace and actions.
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Ez.18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
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Jer.31:29-30 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge