This group is to shed light on the wicked ideology that is islam. Muslims are the first victims of islam and we should have concern (respect) for them as people. This in No Way means we must respect islam or the beliefs of muslims.

In this group we will cover such subjects as:

* The right to decieve within islam (taqiyya)

* Was mohammad a prophet

* Mohammad's Pedophilia (and exsplicit content of the quran)

* Jihad (HATE)- spread islam by any means possible

* persecution of non muslims (Christians, Jews, Blacks) and muslims (women, tribes, views..)

* victories against islam

* How Mohammad was possessed by and served Satan

* the rule of abrogation (which Moe said is the Proper way to interpret the Quran)

* Lack of spirituality in islam/ This is noticed in discussions about the Spirit of Yeshua (Jesus) /Jn.4:24/ and any and all discussions of a spiritual context.

They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men)

  ^ Quran sura 17.85 night journey

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Strange how the organizations hell bent on destroying biblical standards and morality love to throw around the term "Islamaphobia" (Islamaphobic), yet never use the term Islamization and or Islamification which is a threat to all non muslims and human (civil and equal) rights. Last i checked i wasnt required to respect islam only individuals (muslims being the first victims of islam) and their right to believe as they choose as long as it does effect my rights and well being. Fear doesnt even apply!

Muslims can and do use islamic sources to support terror.

 

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http://www.abnsat.com/abnnew/ 

http://debatetv.org/

http://www.tvfree.us/video/52/Christian--Muslim-Debate-TV 

http://www.answering-islam.org/ ..

I also suggest the book "The Deception of allah" by Christian Prince

(C.P.'s current Youtube channels: allahaleg / AllahTheLeg )

Other Youtube channels standing against islamization: Acts18/ JesusOrmuhammad / ABNSAT /

 

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Note: To be a considered a believer in islam one has to profess that allah is God and that muhammad is his prophet. This oath is what makes on a muslim (believer and is known as the shahada

Sura V - The Table, 5:51 (Quran) -- O Believers! take not the Jews or Christians as friends. They are but one another's friends. If any one of you taketh them for his friends, he surely is one of them! God will not guide the evil doers.

War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216 (Quran)

 

* Surely those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book (Jews and Christians) and the mushrikūn (polytheists/ according to Islam- Christians) shall be in the fire of hell, abiding therein; they are the worst of men. Surah 98:6 (Quran)

* allah does not love the unbelievers (non muslims) 3:32 (Quran)

* (Quran 9:29)  O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers (non muslims) who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you.

* O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers (non muslims) and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end (Quran Sura 9.73)

* O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers (non muslims) who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you (Q- Surah 9.123)

* (Q-Surah 48.29) Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers (Non muslims), (but) compassionate amongst each other (muslims).

* (Q- sura 47.35) Be not wiery and faint hearted, crying for peace when ye shall be upper most.

* (Q.9:5) When the sacrid months have passed, slay the idolitors (Jews and Christains according to islam) when ever you find them and take them captive and besiedge them and prepare for them each ambush.  

 (Quran calls Jews monkeys/apes, swine, and cursed idol worshippers and infidels)

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Sahih Muslim 33/ The messenger of allah has said, I have been comanded to fight against people until they testify that there is no god but allah

 

Bukhari's al- Adab al- Mufrad 103/ The prophet said , do not give the people of the book (Jews and Christians) the greeting first, Force them to the narrowest part of the road

 

muhammad said, I will exspell the Jews and Christians from the arabian peninsula and will not leave any but muslim/ sahih muslim4366

 

Sahih al-Buhkari 6922/ allas messenger said whoever changed his islamic religion, then KILL him

 

The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim)

 
Quran_______

unbelieveers in Islam:
* Evil people are disbelievers. Sura 2:99 / 2:254 /

* Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim. 3:73

* Do not obey disbelievers. 3:149

* Oppose and admonish those who refuse to follow Muhammad. 4:63

* Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76

* The disbelievers are an open enemy to you. 4:101

* Non-muslims are wrong doers. 5:45

* Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests. 5:63
* Disbelief is the greatest evil. 7:37
* Disbelievers (non muslims) are liars. 7:66 (interesting when islam encourages lies/ al- taqiyya)

* Stay away from non-Muslims. They are all liars. 9:107 (big steriotype/ Notice I only show where Islam encourages deception and lies but I dont STERIOTYPE all muslims like Islam  STERIOTYPES all Christians and Jews/ Steriotypes and labels breed HATE, ignorance.

 

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- Men are superior to women. (Surah 2:282)
- Women have half the rights of men:
 a. In court witness (Surah 2:282)
 b. in inheritance (Surah 4:11)
- A man may beat his wife (Surah 4:34)
- A man may marry up to four wives at the same time (Surah 4:3)
- Muslims must fight until their opponents submit to Islam (Surah 9:5)
- A Muslim must not take a Jew or a Christian for a friend (Surah 5:54)
- A Muslim apostate must be killed (Surah 9:12)
- Stealing is punished by the amputation of the hands (Surah 5:41)
- Adultery is punished by public flogging (Surah 2:42)
- No separation between Church and State. (Surah 2:193)
- No opposition party allowed (Surah 4:59)

Antisemitic

Muhammad married Aisha at age 6/ muhammad 51  (5 according  to islamic calendar) had sex with her at age 9/ muhammad 54 (8 islamic calendar).(In the arab culture you often say 1yr old instead of 3,4,5..mounths old so you are a year ahead /younger in some calculations.)

(But sadly we know that the last days wickedness will increase)

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Dawah usually lacks any real revelation and when it has a truth its truth that was revealed long before muhammad. They hijack the arabic terms for submission (Islam) and one who submits (muslim) and use these terms to identify their ideology as if that somehow makes their ideology true submission to the Almighty. They make claims like look Yeshua prayed while prostrating so we follow Yeshua more than Christians. Do they not know that Christains also prostrate themselves (when led to do so and then its from the heart and not some traditional premeditated ritual) as did those before muhammad. Yeshua wasnt limited to this postion in prayer btw! This is hardly support to say they know Yeshua. People can prostrate for many reasons. People can prostrate towards idols like the black stone (as do muslims), people can prostrate out of total dispair or from simpley giving out of energy. Get some revelation and spirituality and morals then the world will be interested in what you follow. Prayers for show just isnt it.

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Quran declares the Bible to be a true revelation of God and demands faith in the Bible.

 Sura 2:40-42,O Children of Israel! Remember My favour wherewith I favoured you, and fulfil your (part of the) covenant, I shall fulfil My (part of the) covenant, and fear Me. (40) And believe in that which I reveal, confirming that which ye possess already (of the Scripture), and be not first to disbelieve therein, 285;The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying.

3:3 He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, "confirming" that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel ,71 O People of the Scripture! Why confound ye truth with falsehood and knowingly conceal the truth? (Spoken before quran! What Scripture were before Quran? hmmm),93 All food was lawful unto the Children of Israel, save that which Israel forbade himself, (in days) before the Torah was revealed. Say: Produce the Torah and read it (unto us) if ye are truthful.;

4:47 O ye unto whom the Scripture hath been given! Believe in what We have revealed confirming that which ye possess, before We destroy countenances so as to confound them, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers (of old time). The commandment of Allah is always executed. ,136 O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His messenger and the Scripture which He hath revealed unto His messenger, and the Scripture which He revealed aforetime. Whoso disbelieveth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers and the Last Day, he verily hath wandered far astray. ;

5:47-51Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers. (47) And unto thee have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, "confirming" whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ. (48) So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires, but beware of them lest they seduce thee from some part of that which Allah hath revealed unto thee. And if they turn away, then know that Allah's Will is to smite them for some sin of theirs. Lo! many of mankind are evil-livers. (49) Is it a judgment of the time of (pagan) ignorance that they are seeking? Who is better than Allah for judgment to a people who have certainty (in their belief)? (50) O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. (51), 69 Lo! those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Sabaeans, and Christians - Whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve, 71-72.... ;

6:91And they measure not the power of Allah its true measure when they say: Allah hath naught revealed unto a human being. Say (unto the Jews who speak thus): Who revealed the Book which Moses brought, a light and guidance for mankind, which ye have put on parchments which ye show, but ye hide much (thereof), and by which ye were taught that which ye knew not yourselves nor (did) your fathers (know it)? Say: Allah. Then leave them to their play of cavilling.;

10:37And this Qur'an is not such as could ever be invented despite of Allah; but it is a confirmation of that which was before it and an exposition of that which is decreed for mankind - Therein is no doubt - from the Lord of the Worlds,94And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.;

21:7And We sent not (as Our messengers) before thee other than men, whom We inspired. Ask the followers of the Reminder if ye know not?;

29:45-46 Recite that which hath been inspired in thee of the Scripture, and establish worship. Lo! worship preserveth from lewdness and iniquity, but verily remembrance of Allah is more important. And Allah knoweth what ye do.  And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender.,;

35:31As for that which We inspire in thee of the Scripture, it is the Truth confirming that which was (revealed) before it. Lo! Allah is indeed Observer, Seer of His slaves.;

46:11
And those who disbelieve say of those who believe: If it had been (any) good, they would not have been before us in attaining it. And since they will not be guided by it, they say: This is an ancient lie;

 

When a muslim seeks to speak against the Word of God they speak against quran. Ignorant muslims and those practicing taqyyia at times attempt to claim that our sources are altered and changed but the actual claim is that many Jews and Christians have altered the interpretation (that much is true).

Reason for sharing these surahs is for documentation for any discussions you may have with muslims. I take it we all know islam is of Satan, and muhammad is a false prophet who remixed the Tanach (OT) the Talmud, The NT, the Gnostics, and Hindu sources to form the quran. Within the quran it is clear that quran only has one messenger even though it claims the prophets before and perverts their message. Gabriel came to muhammad with "revelation" and that revelation has given from muhammad to others who put the quran together. None of the quran went through Moses, or any of the true prophets or scribes of The Holy Spirit. Muslims follow one mans ideology and rationalizations of many sources of Faith. A Man that openly confessed to being illiterate and it shows within his remix.

One way to see how well a muslim studies quran and where their hearts are is to greet them with the arabic "As-Salāmu `Alaykum/ as-salamu alaikum" (Peace be unto you).

 

Many muslims hold fast to Surah 4.86 which says they should not initiate the greeting. Zealous (Real) muslims have a real problem wishing peace upon those they consider their enemy. However if they refuse to respond in like manner to you once you initiate the greeting you should remind them of their sources on this.

 

* “O you who believe, enter not into houses other than yours without first announcing your presence and invoking peace (saying salaam) upon the folk thereof. That is better for you, that you may be heedful”

* “And servants of (Allah) the Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, Peace (Salaam)!”

* “Consider his cry: ‘O my Lord! Surely they are a people who do not believe! So turn away from them and say ‘Salaam’ (Peace) for they shall soon come to know”.

Also, * ”And when they hear ill speech, they turn away from it and say, ‘For us are our deeds and for you are your deeds, peace be upon you; we seek not the ignorant”

The "Prophet" said: * “Greet with Peace those whom you know and those whom you do not know”

He also informed us that when Allah created Adam, He commanded him “Go to that assembly” and they were an assembly of seated angels – ” and listen to how they greet you. Indeed, it is your greeting and the greeting of your descendents”. He said: “Peace be upon you” they said: “Peace be upon you and Allah’s Mercy”

The "Prophet" also said:* “Spread the greeting of peace”

 

When a muslims sees you as the enemy they are forbidden to greet you in peace: This is supported by a Hadith where the "Prophet" said: * “We are going forth in the morning against a group of Jews, so do not initiate the greeting of ‘Peace’ with them”

More so, a good number of the companions hold the same opinion. Abdullahi bin Mas’ud once said salaam to a non-Muslim. When asked: “Are we not warned against initiating salaam with them?“ He replied: “It is a right of companionship”. He once wrote a letter to a non-Muslim and said therein, ‘Assalamu alaik’ – “Peace be upon you”. Abu ad-Darda’, Abdullahi bin Abbas, Fudalah bin Ubaid and Ibn Muhairiz were also of the same view. It was equally reported that, Abu Umamah Al-Bahily do used to say salaam to whoever he passed by, Muslim or non-Muslim, and used to say, “it is a greeting for the people of our religion, and an assurance of security to our non-Muslim citizens (who pay jizya), and a Name among the Names of Allah we spread among ourselves”. Notable among the prominent pious predecessors of the second generation was Sufyan bin Uyaynah, who when asked whether a Muslim can salute a non-Muslim with salaam, replied in affirmation and quoted the saying of Allah “Allah does not forbid you in respect of those who do not fight you because of your religion and do not expel you from your homes – from being righteous and dealing justly towards them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly”

 

Personally i respect muslims as people but i am not required to respect islam! So many would consider me not worthy of peace and their enemy according to quran. Thus would not speak peace unto me. This in fact shows that islam is intolerant of non muslims and not of peace which the quran clearly states in many places example surah 48:29. As Christians we pray for our enemies and bless those who curse us (Spiritually). Physically we are told to feed our enemies when they hungar and give them drink when they thirst. So while we will defend ourselves from physical threat Christians are concerned for everyone and want to see everyone grow closer to the Almighty.

Imam Awzaiy said: “If you say salaam to them (the non-Muslims), then surely (some) pious people did the same, and if you don’t, indeed, (some) pious people did the same.”

Al-Sha’abi is also of the same understanding. He once said to a Jew “Peace and Allah’s Mercy be upon you” (Alaikas-Salam wa Rahmatullah), so it was said to him “You told a Jew Warahmatullah”? He replied back saying: “Isn’t he living in Allah’s Mercy?

 

There are also many muslims that will greet non-muslims with the arabic ‘As-Saamu alaik’ meaning “Death be upon you”. It sounds simular to peace be unto u to a none arabic speaking person but instead of being a blessing its a curse.

 

so to those who refuse to respond in like manner remind them:

 “And when you are greeted with a greeting, greet (in return) with what is better or (at least) return it (in a like manner)…”

 You will begin to notice they will leave of the peace and just say:

wa’alaikum (And upon you too) or Alaikum’ (let it be upon you)

(Remember Islam doesnt mean Peace Salam does. Islam means submission/surrender)

Interesting how "peace" is code word for "submit" among muslims. Muslim means one who submits to God (or the islamic allah). Abdullah means slave of allah. Abdullah is a title (name) often used to address a muslim as well.

Another islamic documentaion of killing an apostate (someone who leaves islam)

Bukhari, Book 83, volume 9, #17

"Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (Apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

Sahih al-Buhkari 6922 Narrated Ikrima: Some Zanakiqa (atheists) were brought to Ali; and he burnt them. The news of this event reached Ibn Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Messenger forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger: 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Did Muhammad varify Paul as being sent forth?

Al-Qurtubi, says of Surah 36:14 (61:13)

It was said that THIS VERSE was revealed about the apostles of Jesus, may peace and blessing be upon him. Ibn Ishaq stated that of the apostles and disciples that Jesus sent (to preach) there were Peter AND PAUL who went to Rome; Andrew and Matthew who went to the land of the cannibals; Thomas who went to Babel in the eastern lands; Philip who went to Africa; John went to Dac-sos(?) which is the tribe to whom the sleepers of the cave belonged; Jacob went to Jerusalem; Bartholomew went to the lands of Arabia, specifically Al-Hijaz; Simon who went to the Barbarians; Judas and Barthas(?) who went to Alexandria and its surrounding regions.
Notice how al-Qurtubi had no qualms in admitting that Paul was a legitimate follower of Christ! If al-Qurtubi is correct, then this means that Paul was one of the followers whom God gave the power to overcome the unbelievers and prevail!

   quran/ islam

Muslims dont have enlightenment to share so the use rhetoric to support their ideologies. They often have no respect for facts. One of their popular claims is that islam is the biggest or fastest growing religion in the world as if that somehow (IF true) would equal truth. Fact is numbers doesnt equal truth and G-d's people have always been a minority. We are even told the last days will be like unto the days of Noah and Lott (society was increasingly wicked in these storylines, the majority were godless). Stats of those who claim religions in no way should be given creedance to exspress divine authority. We know the masses will be decieved and rebellious to G-d when Messiah returns yet muslims are told their religion will rule the world at that time. As far as religion goes the numbers say their are more Christians that muslims (not that it matters) including all the denominations. A great portion of growth of islam is contributed to the birth rate of muslims (kids who have yet to embrace religion in their heart and individual relationship with G-d) since one born to a muslim family is automatically considered muslim. Muslims are also killing nonmuslims (as well as muslims) daily. Those that leave islam are to be killed. http://fastestgrowingreligion.com/numbers.html  More factual numbers based on peoples religious claims of identity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations  

more islamization: "A weekly call to prayer for Muslims will be heard at Duke University starting Friday, school officials said. http://www.wral.com/muslim-call-to-prayer-to-sound-at-duke-universi...

Oxford University Press bans use of pig, sausage or pork-related words to avoid offending Muslims

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11345369/Oxford-University-P... 

UPDATE: 4:20p ET: Duke University has reversed its plan to sound the Muslim call-to-prayer from the Duke Chapel bell tower.

Michael Schoenfeld, vice president for public affairs and government relations, said "it was clear that what was conceived as an effort to unify was not having the intended effect."
/ Finally some good news! I wasnt aware it was gonna be done from a Chapel's bell tower! Glad to see people stood unified against this expressing how they felt!

Now we just need to deal with Oxford.

Law of the land in islam? 

So many muslims try to decieve others by simply saying that 4:59 says they are to obey law of the land. I dont think any Honest muslim or anyone with reading comprehension has that interpretation of the verse. Islam is about domination and establishing Sharia (islamic) law. Quran is the source of muslim politics. 4:59 "O ye *who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger (obviously muslims that embrace islam/ sharia), and those charged with authority (by who?) among you (pretty general so whats the message to those mentioned?). If ye *differ in anything among yourselves, *refer *it *to *Allah *and *His *Messenger (sharia/ who else other than a muslim under sharia cares to do that? who else even believes muhammad is the messenger of G-d?), if ye do believe in Allah and the Last Day (according to this quran): That is best, and *most *suitable for *final *determination." / 3.73 ""And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah: (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things."/ Oppose and admonish those who refuse to follow Muhammad. 4:63/ Do not obey disbelievers 4.149 "O ye who believe! If ye obey the Unbelievers, they will drive you back on your heels, and ye will turn back (from Faith) to your own loss." Not to mention the Many times quran says *not to take Jews & Christians (non muslims) as allies (friends/ protectors). Minarets are a symbol muslims use to claim a territory to be muslim land. Any outside force upon them is view as an act of war on the muslims and islam. 

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