Was muhammad a prophet? (NO)/ There is only one "messenger of the quran (muhammad). Muslims follow a single Man.

LIKE UNTO MOSES

*** Deut 18:15-22

The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee (Israel) a Prophet from the midst of thee (Israel), of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not (Ex.20:18-19). And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. I will raise them (ISRAEL) up a Prophet from among their brethren (Israel), like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

_____Like unto Moses_____

The LORD likes that the people have a healthy respect for him. He respects their request and says that he will speak to his people through prophets and mentions one to come that will be Like Unto Moses. (Yeshua HaMashiach mets all the qualifications)

This consists of: Teaching/confirming Torah,&

 

*** 1) Being a Prophet

(In the sense of one who gives prophesy- Deut.18:22 which comes to pass, but not all that give prophacy are prophets of YHVH Mark 13:22 ,* Deut.13:1-4 I challenge any muslim to document one prophacy (of any value that wasnt stolen from a Real prophet) of Muhammad that came to pass or one miracle!) / Another basic use of the term "prophet" (one who teaches) also applies and it should be one who teaches in harmony of the Word (Yeshua said think not that i come to destroy the law but rather to fulfill it) rather than to abrogate.

*** 2)Being an Israelite "From among their brethren", "unto thee", "In the midst of thee"vs.15 also note Deut.34:10-12 / Not Arabic tribe/ Mohammad didnt see Israelites as his people or brethren neither did Israel see Mohammad as an Israelite. Ishmael was brother to Isaac (this is true). This was before Moses speaking to Israel. Some individuals may say in general this makes muhammad a brother. If this is the case who isnt in some way? we are all related. Deut 18:15,18

(Moses was speaking unto Israel- of which Muhammad is not, its of Israel a prophet like unto Moses must come)

Israel asks Moses be an intercessor That GOD speak to Moses and Moses speak to the people.

*** 3) One who comes in the Name of The LORD (did Name carries with it character/ Muhammad use the sacrid name or even the same doctrine?No, Muhammad teaches to embrace a rule of abrogation, and never used the sacrid name) Deut 18:7,19,20,22

*** 4) One who recieves revelation directly from YHVH./ Mohammad got his revelation through a mediator (angel Gabriel) instead of him being one. (Deut.34:10) Moses recieved revelation directly from The LORD our God!

 

LIKE unto Moses! Like would mean that their messages confirm one another (correct?).

Yet the quran says "allah doesn't begat sons nor is he begotten" (Sura  112:3/ Sura 23:9). The very word used here in Sura 112:3 is yaw- lad (H-3205). The same Word used in:

 

Deut.32:18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee. (Thus according the The WORD of THe LORD that came through Moses Israel was begotten of him! This in the same book that some muslims want to ignorantly use to say muhammad was LIKE unto Moses yet it contradicts the foundation of their claims.)

Perhaps muhammad didn't have qualified answers.

Deut.32:6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?

 

Deut.8:1-5 Again God is to be considered Father. (as many more verses/ while this is a Spiritual concept seeing as The LORD is Spirit, his are "begotten" of him.)

Ex.4:22-23 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

 

Jn.8:41-44 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

 Also in islam they are told a virgin concieved and had a child (Is.7:14). How does that happen? By Devine Intervent. So seeing as the child had no Physical Father LOGIC would tell us that the child's Father is YHVH. So Islam contradicts its self according to logic. (Is.9:6 a son called El Gibbor- the mighty God)

(Ps.2:7 / Acts 13:33/ Heb.1:5)

More <--- on the Super Natural Birth of Yeshua (and others in the Word)

 

 

_____Beware of false prophets________

When we compare the Tanakh (O.T.) with the Gospels (N.T.) and the muslim sources we see that not only does Muhammad not qualify to be a prophet he Does qualify to be an antichrist and false prophet.

*** FALSE PROPHETS: 2 Jn.1:10-11, I Jn.4:1, 1 Cor.2:4, Rom.16:17, Acts 20:29:30, 2 Pet.2:1, Col.2:8, Matt.7:15, Matt.24:11, Jer.5:31, Jer.14:14, Mat.24:24, Jer.2:8 ...

*** The enemy Jer.9:14/ Jn.8:44

*** Types of antichrists- 1 Jn.2:22/ 1 Jn.4:3/ 2 Jn.1:7

*** Mohammad claimed that Christ was nothing more than a prophet, then he made himself equal to Christ by claiming to be a prophet as well, then claimed to be above Christ seeing as he met Christ in the 2nd heaven then went up higher until he reached the 7th heaven. Quran 17:1 Surah Al-Isra / Hadith: Isra and Mi'raj / "Siratu'l Rasul" vs. 270-271. This is the ideology of Satan (antichrist):

*** Is.14:13-14 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High./ Ez. 28:2,6-7!

Quran tells muslims they are limited to understand SPIRIT (Surah /Al-Isra/ 17.85). This is one truth in quran muslims dont understand Spiritual things. This is why they dont understand Mashiach (Matt.16:13-17/ 1 Cor.2:14/ 2 Cor.2:12-17/ Rom.8:6/....).

English translations:

17.085 

YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say:   "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a         little that is communicated to you, (O men!)"

PICKTHAL: They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is          by command of my Lord, and of knowledge ye have been vouchsafed but         little.

SHAKIR: And they ask you about the soul. Say: The soul is one of          the commands of my Lord, and you are not given aught of          knowledge but a little.



___No one will list one miracle (prophacy) of mohammad___

mohammad said himself he didnt have the ability to work miracles (feel free to document one prophacy!:)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 92, Number 379
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "There was no prophet among the prophets but was given miracles because of which people had security or had belief, but what I was given was the Divine Inspiration which Allah revealed to me. So I hope that my followers will be more than those of any other prophet on the Day of Resurrection."

There are many verses in Quran that reaffirm this last Hadith, proving that muhammad never performed any miracle and found it useless. In the following verse muhammad is acknowledging that other prophets before him came with miracles or clear signs but still people rejected them, highlighting the futility of miracles as the proof of his revelation.

Q. 03: 138
They (also) said: "Allah took our promise not to believe in an messenger unless He showed us a sacrifice consumed by Fire (From heaven)." Say: "There came to you messengers before me, with clear Signs and even with what ye ask for: why then did ye slay them, if ye speak the truth?" if you are truthful?

All along, the unbelievers asked muhammad to perform a miracle so that they could believe. All they got in response was,

Q. 17: 90
They say: "We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth,

And he would reply:

Q. 17: 93
Say: "Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man,- a messenger?"

People doubted muhammad because they saw nothing extraordinary or miraculous in him.

Q. 17: 94
And naught prevented mankind from believing when the guidance came unto them save that they said: Hath Allah sent a mortal as (His) messenger?

Q. 25: 7
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?

Q. 25: 8
"Or (Why) has not a treasure been bestowed on him, or why has he (not) a garden for enjoyment?" The wicked say: "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched."


But muhammad kept telling them that he is just an ordinary man not an angel, meaning people should not expect miracles from him!

Q. 17: 95
Say: Had there been in the earth angels walking about as settlers, We would certainly have sent down to them from the heaven an angel as a messenger.

The common sense dictates that no one would deny and call a man who performs such mighty miracles like splitting the moon, as believed by all the Muslims a mad man or possessed. But the people who knew him actually called him by these names.

Q. 15: 06
They say: "O thou to whom the Message is being revealed! truly thou art mad (or possessed)!.

No one would demand him miracles if he had already performed one

Q. 15: 07
Why do you not bring to us the angels if you are of the truthful ones?

But muhammad responded

Q. 15: 08
We send not the angels down except for just cause: if they came (to the ungodly), behold! no respite would they have!

The Quraishites kept asking for a sign or a miracle to believe and muhammad kept saying that he is only a warner.

Q. 13: 07
"And the Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" But thou art truly a warner, and to every people a guide."

There are many more ayat that tell the same story. People asking miracles and him saying I am just a man, just like you, only a warner. A clear proof that muhammad never performed any miracles is in this verse where it says that people rejected even other messengers who came with miracles and clear signs, meaning miracles are not helpful.

Q. 3: 184
Then if they reject thee, so were rejected messengers before thee, who came with Clear Signs, Books of dark prophecies, and the Book of Enlightenment. http://youtu.be/uJucCSnYupY

In the above verses muhammad is denying any supernatural power. If he could perform the miracles attributed to him in those Ahadith, what is the meaning of these verses? In the following verse he clearly rejects miracles as the proof of prophethood comparing them to witchcrafts.

Q. 2: 3

Their hearts toying as with trifles. The wrong-doers conceal their private counsels, (saying), "Is this (one) more than a man like yourselves? Will ye go to witchcraft with your eyes open?"
(Suras * 17:59, 88:93; 13:7,30; 6:37,109,124; 7:203; 2:87,99,118-119,151, 252; 3:183). shows mohammad didnt work miracles!

*** ^This shows that moe was Not "Like unto Moses"/ (Deut.18:21-22, Is.41:21-24, Ex10:1-2, ect.)


____Islam is not of The LORD_____

Muhammad claimed to get revelations from an angel. We are warned of "angels" (familure spirits/ demons) that come to decieve *** Gal.1:8/ Rom.8:35-39/ Col.2:18/ 2 Cor.11:14 (Muhammad's talking to the dead and demon possession will be focuss in other discussions, just as "taqiyya" (encouraged deception), and so on...... Muhammad's fruits are of the Devil. Islam is a war manual filled with porno images, hate, and perversion of God's Word.

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I wonder where ( if any where at all ) does Zoroastrianism fit into Islam? Aer there any paralell from each religion? Muhammad to Zoraster? Are the followers of Zoroastrianism following a false prophrt? I just dont know enough about either religion, and I was curious.
Never heard of "Zoraster". I would think followers of muhammad are a bigger threat (enemy)to all. I use to have no need or interest to study islam and mohammad until i started learning how mohammad was the right hand of satan. (did many works for the enemy).

One way muslims attempt to pervert the Word of God is to say that muhammad was mentioned in the book of John. Them trying to assert this into the text exsposes them as frauds!


They claim that muhammad is "The Spirit of truth" (Holy Spirit). Lets remember that Muhammad was a MAN. Lets remember that islam teaches deciet and that allah is the root of all deception so how in the World is a man that teaches deciet, hate and so forth The Spirit of Truth??????????
The message is one of the Comforter (Holy Spirit). Show me how muhammad can honestly be seen as haveing the qualities that would be described as a Comforter when islam teaches hate, and violence.

Jn.14:16-17
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
* "Him" here is the Greek - Autos- which can and does mean - ITSELF,himself, herself, themselves, /IT, he, she
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John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
* "he" here is - ekeinos- which means: that one (or [neuter] thing); often intensified by the article prefixed: - IT, he, the other (same), selfsame, that (same, very), X their, X them, they, this, those.
* Note it will "bring to rememberance" what Christ said instead of changing the doctrine!

Jn.15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
* he here again is the Greek -ekeinos

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Notice the areas that muslims claim mention muhammad in Jewish and Christian sources are attempts to replace Our Messiah (Christ), and or the Holy Spirit. I think it is clear that islam is of the wicked one.

Review:

Same thing called "Spirit of truth" Jn.14:26 & Jn.16:13

"Comforter" Jn.14:16,26

"HOLY SPIRIT" Jn.14:26 

Yeshua is telling the disciples that this Spirit would come to them (before they leave Jerusalem Acts.1:4 Jn.14:16). Which it did at Pentecost Acts 2:4. muhammad never came to the disciples. muhammad wasn't even born during their time. The Holy Spirit isnt flesh. So its Obvious to a child that muhammad isnt The Spirit of truth, the comforter or The Holy Spirit mentioned here in the Gospel of John.

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We don't seek comfort from man, rather we seek comfort in G-d! Ps.118:8 "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man." G-d is love and he can comfort us Through other people. The best a person can be is an instrument of G-d! To claim muhammad is The Comforter is making muhammad an idol.

muhammadians also like to corrupt Songs 5:16 which is exsposed here.

some muslims also like to pervert Isaiah 29:11 to claim it mentions muhammad (cause muhammad claimed to be approached by Gabriel and was told to read and he said i cant), but problem is this verse is about those who are able to recieve the Word because they have "the spirit of deep sleep" that "hath closed your eyes" (Vs. and that this spirit of sleep makes them stagger as if they are drunken (vs.9) and vs.13 says the reason they have this spirit is because they have "removed their heart('s) far from me (the LORD).

("Muhammad" was not the muslims prophet Original (real) name. Rather it was a name given to him either by his egotistical self or his followers to try and identify him as a holy man seeing as muhammad means he who is to be praised. His real name was Qotham or Qutham/ and some called him Zobath  قثم.

Muhammad calling himself Qotham or Qutham, Qathem in (Beharul Anwar Vol.16 p.130) ; "It is narrated from Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w) to have said about himself that ‘I am Qotham` which means ‘I am the owner of comprehensiveness and the collection of all goodness`." Beharul Anwar is also called Bihar al-Anwar/ Al-Sirah Al-Halabia also called Insan al-Uyan fi Sirat al-Ma'mum, vol 1. p. 128; "After the death of Qathem ibn Abd-Al-Mu'taleb (Muhammad's uncle) at the age of nine, three years before Muhammad was born, his father Abd Al-Mu'taleb felt so sad, so when the prophet was born, he named him Qathem") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8au1Py1I3g ;
Amen & Amen. I have the same vision of where the belief ( Islam) came from. In the fmr. Yugoslavia, Muslim & Croats ( Catholic Croats ) lived in peace, for a time. A short time. In a day. All of tht changed. Oh Brock, if ever you have time to skim the Zoraster ( ism ), could you? What are these?
Again, I take strength in the words you post to us telling us allbeit we are no where near the time, you believe the time may move quickly from the trumps begin to end. I so hoped I would live to see these times, but nature would prevent this in 2030-40-50 or God forbid 2060!! Ha! His Will be done. On Earth as it is in heaven;)

The Comforter
Jn.14:17 as well as 1 Cor.6:19 says the Holy Spirit (the Comforter) dwells within you!!!
Muhammad doesn't qualify unless he is an unclean demon and even then he wouldn't qualify as the Comforter and of truth and God's will and message seeing as such actions by individual spirits are forbidden.

Alpha, Ahura Mazda seems to be the name of the God of Zoroastrianism. I dont recognize that name nor the prophet of this religion so I would consider it a farse. The religion states that he is all good but I wont be looking further into the religion. The reason I have increased studies in Islam is cause I find islam to be an enemy of humanity , Yeshua, Truth, Life, and to everyone and thing I embrace. As I began to see Satan within islam more and more I felt the need to exspose it and its ideology. For when the good do nothing evil wins.
Honestly I dont know much about Zoroastrianism and wont learn much about it. what I have seen remains very general and I find all the answers i need in my relationship with the One Almighty of which his sacrid name nor any of his titles do I see in Zoroastrianism. Some basic truths maybe found in the thoughts of those who embrace that religion. I dont know.

Manifestations of allah

Muslims disagree with their own sources when they say allah can not enter into is creation!

God is a (within) the Fire that Moses saw.
Surah 27:7-9
[Mention] when Moses said to his family, "Indeed, I have perceived a fire. I will bring you from there information or will bring you a burning torch that you may warm yourselves.
But when he came to it, he was called, "Blessed is whoever is at the fire and whoever is in it. And exalted is Allah , Lord of the worlds.
O Moses, indeed it is I - Allah , the Exalted in Might, the Wise."

-face> surah 55;26
-eyes> surah 20;39
-hands> Surah 5:64/ Surah 38:75/ Surah 39:67
-legs >Surah 68:42/ bukhari 9;93;532
-Shin> Narrated by Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri, Sahih Bukhari Vol9, Book 93, No.532s
-foot> Sahih Bukhari Vol8, Book 78, Number 654/ bukhari 6;60;373
-sits down> Surah 57:4
-angels carry allah> surah 69:17
-allah has a shade> bukhari 2;24;504

So we know God has an image like that of Christ (man). We know that God manifested to Moses as a burning bush, Yet some still dont understand that God can be(come) that which he shall be (come). In him all things are possible.

Christians are told that God is Spirit and we are to worship him in Spirit. For Spirit to interact in the physical real in a physical way it uses vechiles such as flesh. The spirit within the flesh of Christ is what made Christ who he was. Muslims will say Jesus was born of a virgin which could only mean that the conception was devine but they are told: Surah [112.3] He begets not, nor is He begotten.(has no children Surah 4.171 ) hmmm

•Allah is the Holy. [Koran 59.23]/ yet muslim sources say Christ is Holy as well no mention that muhammad was holy
•Allah is the Master of the Day of Judgement. [Koran 1.4]/ [Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, Ibn Abi Shayba] Christ is the judge.

The standard of being considered muslim is to do the Shahadah (pledge of conviction of faith) "Ash HaduAllaa Ilaaha Il-lallaah Wa Ash Hadu Anna Muhammadar Rasullulah" which means "I bear Witness that there is no deity but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad if His Messenger". Christians and Jews make the LORD the focuss. We dont go around looking to worship a prophet beside God. Muslims dont just take an oath to what they feel is The one but they are required to mention the one who created islam - muhammad After all muhammad is the source of the word in islam. Honestly i cant see why people sell their sould to islam. The blind leading the blind.
The false prophet said that he was mentioned in The Gospels of Yeshua (which are obviously Matt, Mk, Lk, and John) and the Torah, but the only way we see any mention of muhammad compared to his works is to mention a false prophet and a type of antichrist.

[Shakir 7:157] Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel….

[Shakir 2:146] Those whom We have given the Book recognize him as they recognize their sons, and a party of them most surely conceal the truth while they know (it).

So Again muhammad doesnt qualify as a prophet (or even messenger) of God.

When asking muslims to bring a prophacy given by muhammad that came to pass In Quran they most often use to silly claims.

1) the prophacy that in the end days the moon would be split in 2 according to the arabic. then they use a nasa picture of a recently documented VALLEY on the moon to say there it is fulfilled when a valley is not to split in 2.

2) muhammad said that a certain nation would eventually loose a battle. (REALLY? name one nation that is eturnal and that will never lose a single battle) this is not respectable prophacy.

Other standards of one being a prophet can and should be:

1) One that confirms the Law of God seeing as God is a God of Law and order (example just as Christ did)

2) One that speaks Spiritually (unlike muhammad who even described the Spirit realm /heaven/ in a physical way with earthly lusts). 

Be free of muhammad's ideology.

Nazarene Space responce to Jews for Judaism: http://nazarenespace.com/profiles/blogs/a-prophet-like-moses ><>

50 reasons why muhammad wasnt a prophet of YHVH.

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2014/04/50-reasons-muhammad-was-not...

Muslims follow a illiterate prophet that they are told was unable to read when asked by the spirit that came to him with "revelation". In their attempts to show mentionof him in the bible they actually show their ignorance and point to Is.29:12 not knowing what Is.29 is even talking about and that claiming its about muhammad is actually saying muhammad is spiritually blind!

I brief responce to a muslim who claims Is.29:12 is about muhammad (A "Holy Prophet")

Is.29:12 (Is.29:9-13) Is NOT about a "Holy One" or "Prophet" of G-D. It actually says these prophets have been lack of knowledge (revelation). FALSE prophets! Its a discription of a people that have removed their hearts from G-d......... Is.29:12-14 "9 Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.
10 For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the *prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.

11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

..... Thus if you apply it to muhammad your saying that he is a false prophet who has removed his heart from G-D and is unlearned and had his eyes closed by G-D.

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