The Fall of America

[Ed]

A topic of controversy and meant for discussion not separation. Are we looking at the demise of the United States and the civilized Western World? The more I have studied and delve into the scriptures, the more I am beginning to realize that 'Israel' is going into captivity again. Does anyone feel the same way?  

[Ed]

Wow, I spent the better half of an hour+ writing the continuation response only to have the internet go down and I lost it all. So, so, so infuriating! 

Maybe tomorrow. 

[Ed]

I lost time on Wednesday because of 'technical difficulties.' 

Let's continue. 

The prophet Isaiah was born after the Hebrew tribes divided and became two kingdoms. I realize some may not understand so for clarity, after the reign of Solomon the singular kingdom of the Hebrew people broke apart into two kingdoms. These two kingdoms are referred to in scriptures as the House of Judah and the House of Israel. Since Isaiah was born AFTER the division his prophecies are NOT directed to both of the Houses unless he states the House of Jacob. The term House of Jacob (Jacob being the father of the 12 sons who are the heads of the 12 tribes) is used by Isaiah a number of times (Isaiah 2:5&6, 8:17, 10:20, 14:1, 29:22...) as well as just the name Jacob. I'm quite certain that from what you have written that you also agree with this. 

The reason I mention this fact is because Isaiah was born after the separation and through the captivity of the House of Israel (conquered by the Assyrians). However, he did not live through the captivity of the House of Judah by the Babylonians because that happened some 70 years later. His writings would therefore apply to the sins being done by the House of Israel or the House of Judah or even both Houses such as the House of Jacob. 

I mentioned prior that America is undergoing a spiritual famine. The spiritual teachers and leaders are those shepherds who are asleep, uncaring or self fulfilling. They are not tending to the flock, so to speak. This is extremely dangerous for the Western countries should they become ignorant or YHVH (God) and His Word. Every time YHVH's (God's) people turn away from Him, YHVH then turns away from His people. Know that it is always His people who turn away or sin first. If we, as a country, would repent, ask for forgiveness and sin no more, than YHVH (God) would heal our pain and remove our problems. Unfortunately, we are moving away from YHVH (God) today at a brake-neck speed, not toward Him. 

Isaiah 9

⁸ The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted (fallen) upon Israel.

Obviously, the House of Judah took heed to the warning but the House of Israel did not.

⁹ And all the people shall know, even Ephraim and the inhabitant of Samaria, that say in the pride and stoutness of heart,

¹⁰ The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.

Samaria being the capital city of the northern tribes (House of Israel) while Ephraim represents the largest of the tribes; the strength of the northern kingdom. Worth noting, Ephraim and Manasseh are both blood brothers, (sons of Joseph which is 1 of the 12 sons of Jacob), who receive the blessing from Jacob directly. (Recorded in Genesis 48:8-20) In simple terms, Joseph passes his blessing on to his two sons who are actually not full Hebrew. They are, for a correct use of words, bastards because their mother was Egyptian. In a way, the people who represent Ephraim and Manasseh are a 'mixed' people.

With this in mind, we see in verse 8 that even after YHVH sends disasters their way they do not get the message about turning from their sins and repenting. Rather they use their wealth to rebuild the towns bigger and better because of their pride, arrogance and riches. Oh, how we are following the path of the House of Israel of old!

¹¹ Therefore the Lord shall set up the adversaries of Rezin against him, and join his enemies together;

¹² The Syrians before, and the Philistines behind; and they shall devour Israel with open mouth. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

Rezin was the king of Assyria at that time. The Philistines were also enemies of Israel. This is the same thing that will happen to the USA when we fall. As Paul says in 1 Corinthians 10:11, all these events are types and examples for us in the end times. Check out the 83 Psalm by Asaph.

83 Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.

² For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

³ They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

⁴ They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

Yes, the next battle against the USA will be a consorted effort from many nations. They are named and if anyone studies the scriptures they can glean insight. For example,

⁵ For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

⁶ The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites;

Edom is represented as the red nation or Russia of today. (We are speaking of governments not people specifically). Edomites are actually relatives to Jacob and his sons. Esau, Jacob's slightly older brother, is the father of the Edomites. Therefore, Esau's sons would be cousins to Jacob's sons. This is why YHVH is angry with Edom when they conspire against Israel, who YHVH calls his brother. The minor prophet Obadiah is a single chapter long and directed at Edom; future Russia. For the sake of covering and not digressing please read the book. I'll quote a few verses here.

¹ The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord God concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the Lord, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle. 

⁷ All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border:

 Another topic for another day. Those in the confederacy, after using the help of Edom against the House of Israel, will turn against Edom and destroy her. Yet prophetic since the book of Obadiah is dated after the House of Israel goes into captivity by the Assyrians.

¹⁰ For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

Anyways, Edom (Russia) will pay for going against his brother in a conspiracy to kill/conquer him. If you ever study the time when Russia was ruled by Czars then you'll understand the meaning even deeper.

Now, the Ishmaelites are the sons of Ishmael. Ishmael was a son from Abram (later called Abraham) by Hagar who was the handmaiden of Sarai (later called Sarah). Sarai was bare and unable to produce children for her husband Abram. She had her handmaiden 'sleep' with her husband to produce children. Ishmael was the offspring. Ismael is promised to become a nation by YHVH because he was a descendant of Abram (Abraham). See Genesis 21:13.

Ishmael lives to be 137 and has 12 sons. Follow these descendants and you have many of the Arab/eastern Asia nations today. These are only two of the people that will move against the House of Jacob; prophetically meaning all the tribes! If we carefully examine this Psalm we realize that Israel fell to the Assyrians NOT all these other peoples. That should peek the interest of those studying end-times prophecies. 

Lets return to Isaiah.

¹³ For the people turneth not unto him that smiteth them, neither do they seek the Lord of hosts.

¹⁴ Therefore the Lord WILL cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.

¹⁵ The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

¹⁶ For the LEADERS of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

So much here to speak about. The head and the tail refer to the blessings and curses for YHVH's (God's) people who either listen to Him or turn away from Him. (Deut 28:13 & 44) Simply said, our head has all the senses including the brain which causes the body to perform whatever task is so commanded. As for the tail, well all the bad stuff comes from there. 

Do we realize that YHVH says He will cut off the HEAD AND TAIL together! That means the House of Israel will still be receiving blessings, (YHVH does not take away what He has granted) yet are being cursed too. That is exactly what is happening to America today. The curses are beginning to pile up. Do a study on the head and tail for further clarity.

Additionally, YHVH says the fall will occur in 1 DAY! Do we remember how the country of Israel today became a nation in 1 day? That was prophetic and came to pass in our year 1948. The House of Judah was restored!!! (Read Isaiah 66:7-8) 

 

Lastly, let me prove, without a doubt, that Isaiah here in chapter 9 is speaking about the House of Israel and specifically the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh. 

²⁰ And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied: they shall eat every man the flesh of his own arm:

²¹ Manasseh, Ephraim; and Ephraim, Manasseh: and they together shall be against Judah. For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

Assuredly, YHVH (God) is STILL furious with us even after we are destroyed by Rezin. (a type of the coming conqueror of the end times.)

[Moshe Mayim]

Now it hgappened to me. I found a few minutes to respond and wrote more than I intended to write and poof! all gone and I do not want to repeat it, i have lost my steam. I am bummed, I had lots of things that I painstakingly typed.

Maybe we can visit some time in the chat room in real time and spend an hour or so visiting on these things. Chat is open 24/7. Shalom.

[Ed]

Yes, let's set a date when we may speak. I realize there may be some here that may join us.

All are welcome.

[Ed]

Alright, let's look at some other verses and chapters about the House of Israel.

I would recommend that those interested in the USA and the House of Israel read the 2 chapter from the weeping prophet. That is to say, please read Jeremiah 2 and 3 for clarity. Let me preface this with the fact that Jeremiah was a prophet sent to Judah. He was not sent to the House of Isaiah because the House of Isaiah (10 collective northern tribes) were already GONE! Most of Jeremiah's writings are directed toward the House of Judah namely to inform them that they are headed down the same path as the House of Israel went. In other words, Jeremiah arrives on the scene in approximately 518 BC whereas the House of Israel was taken captive in 611 BC. 

For those with a Companion Bible see appendix 50 (3rd to the last page; page 68) for Bullinger's date line. From a Christian standard timeline, the general practice has the captivity occurring on or about 640BC for Jeremiah's writings in contrast to a 722 BC captivity date. 

Therefore, Jeremiah was not prophesying about the House of Israel of old because they were already IN CAPTIVITY for 100 years. Again, one can not be a prophet if you make prophecies about events, places, people and times AFTER they have happened a 100 years beforehand. Subsequently, anything about Jeremiah's words regarding the House of Israel should interest all Americans, the English, Australians, French, Italians, etc. 

Jeremiah chapter 2

³ Israel was holiness unto the Lord, and the firstfruits of his increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith the Lord.

⁴ Hear ye the word of the Lord, O house of Jacob, and all the families of the house of Israel:

No other country in existence has been blessed like the United States of America. Yes, other countries have been blessed and have made their mark in this world but YHVH (God) chose the USA to fulfill His Words. Americans should be joyful BUT HUMBLE. YHVH (God) made us great NOT ourselves. The first fruits are those that are blessed above others; a topic discussed here prior. (See Genesis 48:20-22 for Ephraim & Manasseh and Genesis 49:22 for Joseph their father) 

Now after verse 4 He lets us have it. 

⁵ Thus saith the Lord, What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me, and have walked after vanity, and are become vain?

YHVH (God) cannot sin (iniquity). He is asking His blessed House of Israel when He sinned? (See Deut. 32:4 for the answer). As people become 'fat' with life they tend to forget YHVH (God). Much like the church of Laodicea in the book of Revelation (Rev 3:14-15) YHVH (God) doesn't want a people who are 'lukewarm' for Him. They have become lazy and uncaring. They have let vanity make them vane. Does this not sound like the United States of America? Too preoccupied with a fancy home, flashy car, new outfit and toned bodies. Every product under the sun to fix your skin, whiten your teeth, tone your backside and make you some envy of another vain person! YHVH (God) is making a clear point here. Of the entire House of Jacob and specifically the House of Israel, the good old USA fits this prophecy 100%.

⁶ Neither said they, Where is the Lord that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, that led us through the wilderness, through a land of deserts and of pits, through a land of drought, and of the shadow of death, through a land that no man passed through, and where no man dwelt?

⁷ And I brought you into a plentiful country, to eat the fruit thereof and the goodness thereof; but when ye entered, ye defiled my land, and made mine heritage an abomination.

 

Egypt was a rough time for all of the tribes. First they entered under the authority of Joseph and were blessed and protected by him because he was blessed by YHVH (God). Don't pass over that point. YHVH (God) explains the perils the tribes endured from Egypt until the promised land. The historical event serves as a type to consider. The United States has also followed this path. North America was a wilderness inhabited by indigenous people who were individual tribes but were not a gathered people, as a unified nation. The colonist were Christians searching for a better way of life than the confines of Great Britain at the time. The land was a wilderness while also being a desert with droughts. The land has provided, being  plentifully and providing a wealth of goodness by abundant. The similitudes are undeniable!

Lastly, how can we defile the land and make it an abomination? I can't write about the length of this answer but will direct those interested to read Leviticus 18. The chapter discusses sexual immorality. In verses 24 & 25 it speaks of defiling the land. A note of contention is verse 21 when our 'seeds' (offspring; babies) are passed through the fire (killed). We don't kill our babies through fire for Molech, we kill our babies by the sword for vanity sake! Yes, a mistake or inconvenience that interrupts our vanity!

The very next verse is one of total inclusion. 

⁸ The priests said not, Where is the Lord? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit.

⁹ Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the Lord, and with your children's children will I plead.

Yes, not the priest (spiritual leaders), nor the pastors (teachers of righteousness) nor the last resort prophets (last chance messengers) are doing things right! Therefore, YHVH (God) pleads with the House of Israel's children's children. That is indicative of the last generation of them BEFORE they would go into captivity. Again, I can't stress this enough, Jeremiah is talking FUTURE since the whole House of Israel had already been attacked and captured!

¹¹ Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.

¹² Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the Lord.

¹³ For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

Again, so precise are His Words. America is becoming a country without a god. We have embraced atheism in many aspects of the current nation and the movement is GROWING! We should be "horribly afraid" ut we are not. YHVH (God) is telling us that we should be afraid. Don't we hear His "plea" and stark warning???

Then we have rejected the living waters. Remember, Jeremiah is speak in the past but toward the future. The Living waters are Jesus Christ AND, as Jesus Christ himself questioned those whom claimed to be educated, "have you not read" (Matt 12:3 & 5, 19:4, 22:31 ;Mark 12:10 & 26 and Luke 6:3) the waters are also the scriptures or Old Testament writings. It is water which we all need to live. Is is YHVH's (God's) Words we need to sustain us. If we do not drink His water than we drink polluted water. This is why we think we can make our own cistern and have our own type of water to sustain us. WRONG! Somehow we think we are not sinners nor are we polluted. Really?

¹⁴ Is Israel a servant? is he a homeborn slave? why is he spoiled? 

Yes, Israelites were servants (slaves) in Egypt. As He said in verse 6, have the people forgotten what He did for them? They are no longer slaves and now they are spoiled, vain and turning their back on YHVH (God). How does a people forget their heritage? Because the Unites States is represented as the tribe of Manasseh. Conveniently, the Hebrew word Manasseh means to 'forget' or 'forgotten.' It can't be much plainer than that.

 ¹⁵ The young LIONS roared upon him, and yelled, and they made his land waste: his cities are burned without inhabitant.

 

Now, this is what happened to the House of Israel (10 northern tribes) when they were conquered by the Assyrian. Sargon II had no mercy on the tribes. He attacked like a lion. Lions tear and rip their prey to pieces. They are not like other cats who instinctively bite the neck of the victim which is a quick and less painful way to die. The attack is not precise but just blunt and vicious. Additionally, young lions attack with vigor and vitality! They are ruthless. Obviously, the Hebrew word for lions is plural. We will not be attacked by 1 entity but rather in a pack; a company of enemies.

Ever hear of the movie, The Ghost and the Darkness? It based off a real life story. Essentially, two lions join together to hunt humans. Lions do not hunt together! Another lion is an adversary. This statement is so telling if the reader thinks about it. 

Anyways, I'm running out of time here. I will continue tomorrow if possible. Check out the movie. Its about a 7 out of a 10 but very interesting! 

[Ed]

Points to reconfirm.

-Jeremiah was a prophet sent mainly to the House of Judah. (Jeremiah uses the phrase, "House of Judah" approximately 166 times in his book alone; almost more than all the other books combined)

-His time span occurs 100 years AFTER the House of Israel was taken into captivity. (Subsequently, any of the House of Israel prophecies are therefore future)

So, we have the entire House of Jacob (all the tribes) and the House of Israel specifically mentioned in verse 4 of the 2nd chapter of Jeremiah.

⁴ Hear ye the word of the Lord, O house of Jacob, and all the families of the house of Israel:

⁵ Thus saith the Lord, What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me, and have walked after vanity, and are become vain?

I know I quoted this before but it is a reminder to whom Jeremiah is currently directing his prophecy toward. Verse 8 explains that the priests, pastors AND prophets have all failed to deliver YHVH's (God's) message to His people. He then pleads with their children's children. Those are them who are in the final generation before (historically) the 10 northern tribes are conquered and taken into captivity. 

¹³ For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

The Hebrew word for 'forsake' is a prime root which means to loosen. It does not (always) mean we have fully cast YHVH (God) away but rather have 'loosened' our following of Him and His commandments. Remember the idea of being 'lukewarm?' I believe the United States, as well as most Western civilizations, are guilt of this charge. We, as a people, think we can save ourselves. Yes, most Christians today believe in YHVH (God) but under their own set of standards. 

This is why Jeremiah states, in the same verse, that we have 'hewed' out our own cisterns. We can't work out our own salvation just as we cannot rely on our own methods to preserve water. I think YHVH (God) is pleading with us today to turn back to Him as a nation. But...we won't.

¹⁴ Is Israel a servant? is he a homeborn slave? why is he spoiled?

Yes, the nation was once a people of slaves in Egypt. Everyone not just some! You'd think we'd remember our past and GROW THROUGH HUMILITY. So here is the prophecy I wanted to get to in the next verse.

¹⁵ The young lions roared upon him, and yelled, and they made his land waste: his cities are burned without inhabitant.

¹⁶ Also the children of Noph and Tahapanes have broken the crown of thy head.

 First, Noph and Tahapanes were cities within Egypt which were responsible for the harshest of treatment of the Israelites while they were captives/slaves. The same message is expounded upon in the 44th chapter of the same book. (Jeremiah 44) The Israelites do eventually escape from their 'chains of slavery' but later, after all their troubles have vanished in the promised lands, forget YHVH (God). 

So, His remedy is to allow "young lions" to lay waste to Israel's land so that everything is destroyed and that there is not a single inhabitant. Again, this is prophetic and directed at the House of Israel. Sure, the House of Judah will also sin and fall but AFTER the fall and captivity of the House of Israel JUST LIKE IN THE PAST! This is just one example of why the United States is headed for it's destruction and captivity. Notice the scriptures say "lions" being plural. When the House of Israel fell before it was accomplished by a single conqueror, Sargon II. This next time it will be by 'lions' or multiple conquerors. This is what I mentioned earlier but the Psalmist. It will be a company of nations who attack the United States, United Kingdom, France, Australia, Canada, etc...

The attack will be fast and furious. It will be horrific and we should be fearful. (verse 12) 

But...

we are not. We are the Western world; an alliance of allies who are untouchable. WRONG! 

When YHVH (God) is angry, He will aid our foes and the punishment will be severe! 

Check out this verse just a bit further along.

¹⁹ Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the Lord thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord God of hosts.

How clear is that??? We have no fear of YHVH (God) so the lions He will allow to attack us, will be an EVIL THING and will make us BITTER. I recognize that the evil and bitter refers to the transgression of forsaking YHVH (God) but it also carries through from the subject. We have BACKSLID and He is going to correct us. I don't want to be bitter toward my Father! I don't want that kind of correction. Seriously, what is coming is not going to be good! (rather pure EVIL).

YHVH (God) is so thorough with His explanations. The Hebrew word for 'backsliding' is used extensively for the future House of Israel only. Look at the very next chapter of Jeremiah.

 ⁵ Will he reserve his anger for ever? will he keep it to the end? Behold, thou hast spoken and done evil things as thou couldest.

America thinks YHVH (God) will hold His anger forever. I think you agree with me that He will not. In fact, we are seeing that He is removing His hand from about us. We will not bode well!

The use of 'backsliding' is utilized 15 times in the scriptures with 12 being in the book of Jeremiah and the other 3 times in the book of Hosea. Six of the times are in this 3rd chapter alone. All of them make reference to the House of Israel. 

¹⁶ For Israel slideth back as a backsliding heifer: 

There is not a more stubborn animal than a backsliding heifer. They will refuse to go where you wish to lead them and they actually pull against the owner by digging in their heels and pushing in the opposite direction. And we Western people though the original Hebrew people were a stiff necked people! (Ex. 33:5)

Anyways, that is some of the scriptures that support the premises of America falling. 

Here is some of my supposition derived from the scriptures.

America will not repent from her sin. (Backsliding, obstinate, and stubborn) 

Most Western countries will follow the path of America and will be punished as well. 

The blessings will slowly be replaced by the curses of Deuteronomy 28. (We are becoming the tail not the head). YHVH's (God's) anger is reaching a boiling point.

The curses will cause grief, misery & depression. (Disease, loss of prosperity, fear instead of courage, food storages & famines, freak anomalies, outrageous pricing, etc.) 

Our enemies will conspire against us. (China & Russia will join to defeat America with a company of other nations)

As of current, we are at war. (Not a conventional war; ignorance - study the Art of War)

Civil unrest and laws turning upside down. Right become wrong while wrong is acceptable.

The United States will continue to weaken and falter on multiple fronts.

The invasion will be quick, precise and lethal. The atrocities will be egregious, like never before!

The land will be desolate and those who remain will go into captivity never to return. The assaults' will be perpetrated on multiple other Western countries who will also fall. 

Israel will but remain for a while until all is completed.

The conspirators will then turn their attention against Israel. Israel is destroyed.

The Beast system (Daniel & Revelation) is installed. 

Russia is betrayed and also falls. (It is possible that they are one of the three kingdoms to be removed)

Let me stop there. Your thoughts?

 

 

[Ed]

The Final Scriptures for this topic. Note, that there is a considerable amount of further scriptures to support what I have said but the subject would result in a book. 

Again, I will reiterate that the prophet Jeremiah was sent primarily to the House of Judah. He does prophesy about the House of Israel BUT they had already been captured by the Assyrians and were in captivity. SO, the fact is that when Jeremiah prophesies about the House of Israel it is meant for the future, since the House of Israel's (10 northern tribes) captivity occurred over a 100 years before Jeremiah was speaking.  

For anyone reading this please read and apply what our Father is saying. It is proof positive that America is a land blessed by Him and full of His people. Yet, as we will see, are going down into captivity just as the House of Israel did in the days before Jeremiah.

Jeremiah Chapter 5

⁷ How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots' houses.

The youth of today are rejecting the church of today. If you check & verify the data, the largest number of church attendees are aged 35+. The least are those for age 35-18. We are headed for a generation of non-believers like never before. Just look in the United Kingdom, or in the United States. Faith is fleeting among the people. There are also many 'new religions' within the last century. Go to Wikipedia and type in "List of new religious movements" for starters. It's simply crazy! The list is not complete either because it does not include cults or sects from any of the parent organizations. Seriously, how is YHVH (God) pleased???

Also notice that this verse says YHVH (God) has "fed" them "to the full." Again, there is no time in human history then right now that a nation has been incredible blessed so that the people are "fed" and completely "full" than right now. The verses are so directed at today. Pit this in context, Jeremiah could not have been talking about the House of Israel who were already gone and in captivity. 

⁸ They were as fed horses in the morning: every one neighed after his neighbour's wife.

⁹ Shall I not visit for these things? saith the Lord: and shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

Such an awesome analogy since fed horses in the morning are giddy. They are full of vigor, dizzy with light heartedness and full of 'no cares.' I've seen horses like this and they just want out of the stables and into the pasture so as to run and play. They do not lend to instruction well until the 'excitement' has run it's course, so to speak. They can be a bit dangerous and assuredly stubborn when fully rested and abundantly fed. 

The reference to the 'neighbor's wife' is against the law of coveting. (Exodus 20:17 & Deut 5:21) Are we not a people that want what our neighbors have? We are truly vain as I discussed earlier in this thread. Know for a certainty that YHVH (God) clearly states, in this 9th verse, that He will avenge this wrong doing by His blessed people. 

¹⁰ Go ye up upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the Lord's.

¹¹ For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the Lord.

and here we have it! YHVH (God) will allow someone (a people; a nation) to come against the House of Israel and the House of Judah and DESTROY them! From the point of when Jeremiah is preaching this message, Israel was already destroyed but Judah still remained. Of course Judah took no heed to Jeremiah's message and fell to the Babylonians thereafter.

It's not a surprise, YHVH (God) was not happy with either house. Consequently, the House of Israel NEVER returned. If this is an example, a similitude or type toward us, then know that the United States will fall and be removed never to return again. As we read here in this 5th chapter it can not be refuted, the United States will be destroyed.

 

¹² They have belied the Lord, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine:

¹³ And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.

Here is where I quote the verses so frequently. Christians will say, "YHVH (God) is not mad at us. All is fine. He won't send famines and enemies our way." Nope, anyone who believes YHVH (God) KNOWS His word will come to pass as He says it will. Oh America, prepare, prepare, prepare!!!

The last line of defense we have are the prophets. Sadly they are only full of 'hot' air and do not fully warn the people of the gravity of our situation. Wow to the Western world, for we are going to get a beating!

¹⁴ Wherefore thus saith the Lord God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

¹⁵ Lo, I will bring a nation upon you from far, O house of Israel, saith the Lord: it is a mighty nation, it is an ancient nation, a nation whose language thou knowest not, neither understandest what they say.

¹⁶ Their quiver is as an open sepulchre, they are all mighty men.

  

YHVH (God) will send this army against the House of Israel. It is a mighty nation; ancient in it's roots and with a language we do not understand. Their soldiers are all mighty men. Think about that. David's men were "mighty men" but scripturally they are typically referred to as "mighty men of valor." (Joshua 1:14, 6:2 & 8:3, 2 Samuel 17:10, 2 Kings 24:14 & 1 Chr. 5:24) 

Understand that these "mighty men" from the enemy will not have valor. They will have no mercy or respect. They will kill men, women and children of all ages. It will not end well.

 

¹⁷ And they shall eat up thine harvest, and thy bread, which thy sons and thy daughters should eat: they shall eat up thy flocks and thine herds: they shall eat up thy vines and thy fig trees: they shall impoverish thy fenced cities, wherein thou trustedst, with the sword.

¹⁸ Nevertheless in those days, saith the Lord, I will not make a full end with you.

The enemy will do this to the future House of Israel with the SWORD! If it was not YHVH's (God's) wish all of the Western world would fall. However, He will preserve a remnant as He has always promised for the sake of His word. This was restated from verse 10. (Twice for certainty). There are multiple places where the promise is made but Romans 9:27 comes to mind. 

Also, our enemy will "eat up" our blessings. Three times "eat up" is said for maximum emphasis! Are we listening???

¹⁹ And it shall come to pass, when ye shall say, Wherefore doeth the Lord our God all these things unto us? then shalt thou answer them, Like as ye have forsaken me, and served strange gods in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not your's.

²⁰ Declare this in the house of Jacob, and publish it in Judah, saying,

²¹ Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:

We will cry to YHVH (God) saying words like, "We didn't do anything wrong, why is He allowing these things to happen to us?" 

The interesting statement in these verses are that we that remain WILL serve our enemies in a land that is not our own! Prisoners, slaves, captives; anyway you say it, the situation will not be good. I'd imagine that some won't want to live. I can't say I'm looking forward to those times either. 

Lastly, YHVH (God) points out that His people are foolish and don't understand that He is impartial. YHVH (God) is always fair. If we do it His way then we will find His grace. However, if we do it our way He will allow punishment. Personally, we are far beyond His grace and the punishment that is coming will be swift and horrific. Remember how we should be afraid??? (Jeremiah 2:12 which we covered earlier in this thread).

Those that do not have eyes to see and ears to hear are those spoken of in Romans 11:8 and 11:25. The second verse specifically names Israel not Judah. Oh, how YHVH (God) loves those who love Him. 

²² Fear ye not me? saith the Lord: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand for the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it?

So sad that we do not FEAR what YHVH (God) can & will do. Proverbs 1:7 & Psalms 111:10. 

Anyways, I'm out of time. I hope we can speak soon. The remained of the 5th chapter is short but it makes mention of us being "fat" and "wicked." It also reiterates the fact that the prophets of our time don't warn the people correctly. Sad we are soon to see the demise of the United States and all the Western world. 

For those that are reading this thread, please turn your heart unto the Lord. Fear Him and repent. Our punishment is unavoidable and guaranteed. Running would save you. Scriptures say that if you flee the lion(s) you will meet the bear on the path. That has great significance for those who understand the deeper meaning. The time is approaching so please prepare first spiritually and then also physically. Pray, fast and try and remain loyal to Him. 

Read and memorize Psalms 34. (especially verse 7)

It is a truly inspiring Psalm and it is YHVH's (God's) word to us reminding us of His commitment to each and every one of us in the times ahead. Peace through the tribulations to come.

Blessings, ~Ed