Modern "Israel" consists of Jewish, Christian and Muslim quarters and consists of many different people (different races, faiths, cultures). While i dont subscribe to any political organization (i do notice that enemies of Israel are same enemies of any moral society) Israel has demonstrated efforts aimed towards peace throughout the world. However the Palestinian authority is rather intolerant stating that they want a state free of all Jews. What type of state and people would that be to single out people based on such things as race, religion,... I cant think of a single nation today that is made up of one single race or set of beliefs for that matter. I see some nations under sharia (or communism) which Persecute other religions (races, politics,...) though. The Palestinian agenda is one sculpted by muslim extremists and when it comes down to it in the end they dont seek peace with Jews or a two state resolution.

Anyway, My main point for this post is to discuss:

What is "Palestine" and who are the "Palestinians" and since when?

Philistine(Philistia) is NOT "Palestine".

Philistines are NOT "Palestinians".

These words have 2 separate concepts. 

http://friendsnchrist.ning.com/xn/detail/2993852:Note:46974

^ Link on Philistine

Note that "Palestine" isnt even an Arabic word but "Palestinians" Are arabs. Fact is the terminology (as well as the money) identifies both Jewish and Arab peoples. The land belonged to the Brits (British mandate) following world war 2 and they had every intention of there being both a Jewish and a Arab state to "Palestine". Philistine isnt and never was the same concept as "Palestine". Now the barbaric culture of the "Palestinian" agenda has run back to this non arabic terminology after rejecting it to begin with to make land grabs. Now modern speech has morphed the Word and its concepts to only mention the arab and muslim led revolt. 

 

Sadly Modern ideologies have clouded & confused the two to be one in the same, thus perverting facts (history). This perversion (Lies) when embraced substantiates the modern "Palestinian" agenda.

1) PHILISTINE

Honest & Historical --> maps <-- show PHILISTINE. It was a Territory (which the Word confirms) that Narrowly reached up the west coast as far north as "Ashkelon" & BORDERED the territory (house) of Judah. The territory of Philistine exsisted SEPERATE from those of Israel. This territory consisted the area we call the Gaza Strip of Today and about the Same Size. Philistine NEVER Possessed (included) the area of the modern West Bank in its day (such a concept can only be supported through perversion). Thus Philistines have no claim to any part of Jerusalem yet they often fought with Israel in their day and would have loved to be given such lands. According to the Word the Philistines best advancement of Israeli land was the penetration as far North as Adullum, At the gates of Jerusalem. Again todays Gaza Strip was the location of Philistine of Old. This small area wasn't Israel (yet today many can understand why Israel controls the air and borders of this territory for defensive purposes). Gath was like a Captial of Philistine. The area around the borderline of Judah and Philistine was the valley of Ellah, where David slew the giant.

 

(Jer.25:20/Jer.47:5,7/ Amos 1:8/ Zeph.2:4,7; 9:5/ Micah 1:12,16/ Deut.14:1)

Sure certain people want to point to a map with the terms Palestine. If "Palestinians" are those who lived in the land that Was Later Called Palestine By The West then this same concept would apply to Jews as the allied forces clearly understood.

Note: Many Jews left their homes (and even relocated resting places of familes) in Gaza in the name of peace only to recieve violence and lies in return. Those that live in Gaza today elected a terrorist representation. 

 

Islamic Palestinian extremists fight and kill for the land yet demonize zionisim? I find that to be ironic. When we look at the mandate, Jordan made up More than the state of Israel was given (often called Palestine and Trans Jordan). But you dont see "Palestinians" enraged against Jordan do you? That fact doesnt help the Palestinian agenda which is obviously rooted in hate for the Jews.  Jews avoid worship at the most sacrid location in the Faith (Temple mount) out of the name of peace. Taking the mount would likely cause a world war. Filthy islam has marked the temple mount as theirs in the time of the gentiles.

 

2)"PALESTINE" is a rather new term in relation of time. Its a term given to a sactioned off land by the (Western) Allied Forces of World War 2. To Further document this - The Term "Palestine" doesnt exsist in the Arabic! So how does it identify an arabic peoples or territory? The Greeks, British and French coined and put this term into international use.

The stance of scripture states that the people to dwell in the Land known today as Israel (Palestine) were the Jebusites (a Canaanite tribe) ( Ex.3:8,17;13:5... Joshua 15:63,.....). Land doesnt simpley belong to who settled there first. In all honesty Land belongs to who possesses it. Internationally we look to international Law to determine who possesses any given land and Israel was clearly established according to international Law. Others look to religion to determine such things. However anyone with faith in any meaningful "Almighty G-d" knows that no nation (state) can exsist without it being allowed by G-d. Its according to this concept that the a believer in the quran should know that it is the will of God that the state of Israel exsists today (Surah 3:26). Not to mention the sources of Jews Christians and muslims have all said the land was given to the Jews Gen.10/ Gen.15:17-21/ Gen.13:2,29/ Surah 17:100-104/ Surah 5:20-21/....  

 

Currently the prophacies of the reinstatement of Israel have been fulfilled during this time of the gentiles. This land is the watchmens barometer cause the reinstatement of Israel sets the stage for the more negative signs that shall come to pass in the area before the return of Messiah and The Kingdom ... 

 

1948

 

According to some the term Palestine means "land of the Philistines". However with logic, and historic facts the area of Philistine was south west of the Israeli tribal territories (Gaza).  This is an area which currently houses the terror group Hamas amoung others. 

Avvites (Deut.2:23 / Josh. 13:2-3) dwelled there in the time of Abraham, they were conquered by the Caphtorites (an ancient tribe of the "Egyptians"). All kinds of people could be considered "Palestinians" since many peoples settled in the area throughout history. With this mindset you can call anyone who lives in the land Palestinian. This would include Jews! Many of the people that support the "Palestinian" agenda cant be accused of being real educated. The ones that do come across as having a level of intelect use it for perversion and hate. This is why they have a form of history that never exsisted and cant be supported with facts.

A Greek people were among the first to assume the title of identification of "Palestinians"along with arabic refugees from Jordan. The Land of "Palestine" was a possession of The British who named it so. The same forces that set up the "Jewish" state. The international forces approached both "Jewish" and Arabic ("Palestinian") leaders with a opertunity to set up an Arab state and a Jewish State. The Jews accepted the Arabs rejected and insisted on immediate war instead. (propostion181).

Modern archaeology in the area shows evidence in relation to Mycenean influence from Greece in the area! Yet you dont hear Greeks with an ideology that Israel is their land. 

____Must See for those new to the history__________

International Law: Know and understand propostition 181 and 242.^video 

Feel free to comment and discuss the issue of Palestine and Israel.

 

The orgin of the term "Palestine" is Greek not arabic or Aramaic. Its earliest use within the international community began with Brithish Interests of Their land possessions:(The British mandate) (Franco- British Boundary Agreement/ 1920) and (The Transjordan Memorandum/ league of nations/1922) which the so called Palestinians refused.

 

Arab nations

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Muslim nations (below)

 

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The Hebrew word for Violence  is Hamas?!. (Hebrew #2555)

 

Its also translated :

1) "Cruel" Ps.25:19 Consider mine enemies; for they are many; and they hate me with cruel hatred.

2) "cruelty" Ps.27:12 Deliver me not over unto the will of mine enemies: for false witnesses are risen up against me, and such as breathe out cruelty

Ps.74:20 Have respect unto the covenant: for the dark places of the earth are full of the habitations of cruelty.

3) "false" Deut.19:16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong; (& Ps.35:11)

4) "injustice" (Job 16:17)

5) "unrighteous" (Ex.23:1)

6) "Violence" 2 Sam.22:3 The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence

Ps.11:5 The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. (Ps.72:14/ Proverbs 7:14/)

Proverbs 10:6 Blessings are upon the head of the just: but violence covereth the mouth of the wicked (vs.11)/ Is.53:9/ Is.60:18/ Eze.7:11,23/

7) "wrong" Gen.16:5/Job 19:7/  1 Chron.12:19 And David went out to meet them, and answered and said unto them, If ye be come peaceably unto me to help me, mine heart shall be knit unto you: but if ye be come to betray me to mine enemies, seeing there is no wrong in mine hands, the God of our fathers look thereon, and rebuke it

8) "oppressor" Proverbs 3:31

And many many more........

 

I think its obvious what The Righteous Father thinks of Hamas.

suggest: Forces of DarknessThe Parable of the FigtreeWill You Stand with Israel / Deadly Woundnotes

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The Quran even states that Israel was given unto the Jews by the Almighty so why do they insist on changing this?

Quran "night journey" 17:100-104
"Pharoah sought to scare them [the Israelites] out of the land: but We [Allah] drowned him [Pharoah] together with all who were with him. Then We [Allah] said to the Israelites: 'Dwell in this land [the Land of Israel]. When the promise of the hereafter [End of Days] comes to be fulfilled, We [Allah] shall assemble you [the Israelites] all together [in the Land of Israel]."

SHAYKH
God wanted to give Avraham a double blessing, through Ishmael and through Isaac, and ordered that Ishmael's descendents should live in the desert of Arabia and Isaac's in Canaan.

"Say: 'O God, King of the kingdom (1), Thou givest the kingdom to whom Thou pleasest, and Thou strippest off the kingdom from whom Thou pleasest; Thou endowest with honour whom Thou pleasest, and Thou bringest low whom Thou pleasest: all the best is in Thy hand. Verily, Thou hast power over all things.'"(2) [Qur'an 3:26]
its God's will that Jews are dwelling in the land of Israel! this is in their quran (not to mention it was prophacy fulfilled in jewish and Christian sources as well that Jews dwell in Israel today)

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104]

The Holy land of the Jews- Qur'an 5:20-21
21) O my people! enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back Ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin."


historic time line of Israel- http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/palestine.html

Who celibrated 911???

"Palestinians" did. Look at the joy and pleasure in their faces in response to terror and tell me these people seek peace with Americans and Israelis.

Life Magazine pics of Arab army removing Jews from Jerusalem 1948 *licensed for personal non-commercial use. Jerusalem is the historical capital of the Jewish people & the State of Israel.

 

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.214388081928503.60564.151... 

 
 

Common (and constantly used) Hamas "rockets"

During the time of the British mandate, the Brits had a currency (Hebraic and Arabic) to be use in the territory of the mandate. The symbology on these "palestinian" coins is that seen used by the Isreali government today!

The enemies of peace often use baseless rhetoric to spread ignorance and hate towards Israel. This is an example of the type of games these devils play. I have often seen them post this pic on the internet with a caption to the effect that this is an IDF (Israeli Defence Force) soldier that is mistreating the "Palestinian" people.

The problem is anyone familure with the IDF knows this is NOT an IDF soilder.

Here is a pic of the souroundings to further prove this is a fake.

Peace in the Middle East is just as far away as ever. We still remember watching Palestinians CELIBRATE the attacks of 911. These terrorists are devils in the flesh and the enemies of Israel also chant death to the west.

The Use of Human shields by "Palestine". http://youtu.be/giJlG3KXq8c Paletinian leaders admitting and encouraging using human shields.

Neh.4:14 "fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your houses". That is Honorable what the Palestinian agenda pushes is NOT. a man that puts terror over the welfare of their own families is not a man in my book. Those who hide behind women a children are Cowards. No Value for human life is demonic.

The devilish motto of Hamas (a admitted terror organization elected by the people of Palestine to represent them) is: "We love death like Jews love life".

http://youtu.be/UXZEzbT0H1s More evidence  (confession) that Palestinians embrace death and use of human shields. More incriminatting rants from Palestine  https://www.facebook.com/IDFSpokesperson?ref=br_tf...

Even more evidence that these animals embrace terror and like hezballah are even known to shoot from schools, hospitals, and mosques to insure death of civilains to be used for propaganda if they are hit back with Israeli defense. http://youtu.be/70Oqo_wmuGo

why do arab countries abuse and persecute "Palestinian" arabs? During this most recent battle between Israel and gaza the gazans are not allowed to flee across its borders to arab nations for refugee status. Look at the way arabs treat their fellow arabs the so called "palestinians". http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/p/all-arab-countries-except-jordan... 

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