This group is to shed light on the wicked ideology that is islam. Muslims are the first victims of islam and we should have concern (respect) for them as people. This in No Way means we must respect islam or the beliefs of muslims.

In this group we will cover such subjects as:

* The right to decieve within islam (taqiyya)

* Was mohammad a prophet

* Mohammad's Pedophilia (and exsplicit content of the quran)

* Jihad (HATE)- spread islam by any means possible

* persecution of non muslims (Christians, Jews, Blacks) and muslims (women, tribes, views..)

* victories against islam

* How Mohammad was possessed by and served Satan

* the rule of abrogation (which Moe said is the Proper way to interpret the Quran)

* Lack of spirituality in islam/ This is noticed in discussions about the Spirit of Yeshua (Jesus) /Jn.4:24/ and any and all discussions of a spiritual context.

They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men)

  ^ Quran sura 17.85 night journey

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Strange how the organizations hell bent on destroying biblical standards and morality love to throw around the term "Islamaphobia" (Islamaphobic), yet never use the term Islamization and or Islamification which is a threat to all non muslims and human (civil and equal) rights. Last i checked i wasnt required to respect islam only individuals (muslims being the first victims of islam) and their right to believe as they choose as long as it does effect my rights and well being. Fear doesnt even apply!

Muslims can and do use islamic sources to support terror.

 

Photobucket  Some links on exsposing islam:

http://www.abnsat.com/abnnew/ 

http://debatetv.org/

http://www.tvfree.us/video/52/Christian--Muslim-Debate-TV 

http://www.answering-islam.org/ ..

I also suggest the book "The Deception of allah" by Christian Prince

(C.P.'s current Youtube channels: allahaleg / AllahTheLeg )

Other Youtube channels standing against islamization: Acts18/ JesusOrmuhammad / ABNSAT /

 

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Note: To be a considered a believer in islam one has to profess that allah is God and that muhammad is his prophet. This oath is what makes on a muslim (believer and is known as the shahada

Sura V - The Table, 5:51 (Quran) -- O Believers! take not the Jews or Christians as friends. They are but one another's friends. If any one of you taketh them for his friends, he surely is one of them! God will not guide the evil doers.

War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216 (Quran)

 

* Surely those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book (Jews and Christians) and the mushrikūn (polytheists/ according to Islam- Christians) shall be in the fire of hell, abiding therein; they are the worst of men. Surah 98:6 (Quran)

* allah does not love the unbelievers (non muslims) 3:32 (Quran)

* (Quran 9:29)  O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers (non muslims) who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you.

* O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers (non muslims) and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end (Quran Sura 9.73)

* O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers (non muslims) who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you (Q- Surah 9.123)

* (Q-Surah 48.29) Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers (Non muslims), (but) compassionate amongst each other (muslims).

* (Q- sura 47.35) Be not wiery and faint hearted, crying for peace when ye shall be upper most.

* (Q.9:5) When the sacrid months have passed, slay the idolitors (Jews and Christains according to islam) when ever you find them and take them captive and besiedge them and prepare for them each ambush.  

 (Quran calls Jews monkeys/apes, swine, and cursed idol worshippers and infidels)

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Sahih Muslim 33/ The messenger of allah has said, I have been comanded to fight against people until they testify that there is no god but allah

 

Bukhari's al- Adab al- Mufrad 103/ The prophet said , do not give the people of the book (Jews and Christians) the greeting first, Force them to the narrowest part of the road

 

muhammad said, I will exspell the Jews and Christians from the arabian peninsula and will not leave any but muslim/ sahih muslim4366

 

Sahih al-Buhkari 6922/ allas messenger said whoever changed his islamic religion, then KILL him

 

The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim)

 
Quran_______

unbelieveers in Islam:
* Evil people are disbelievers. Sura 2:99 / 2:254 /

* Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim. 3:73

* Do not obey disbelievers. 3:149

* Oppose and admonish those who refuse to follow Muhammad. 4:63

* Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76

* The disbelievers are an open enemy to you. 4:101

* Non-muslims are wrong doers. 5:45

* Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests. 5:63
* Disbelief is the greatest evil. 7:37
* Disbelievers (non muslims) are liars. 7:66 (interesting when islam encourages lies/ al- taqiyya)

* Stay away from non-Muslims. They are all liars. 9:107 (big steriotype/ Notice I only show where Islam encourages deception and lies but I dont STERIOTYPE all muslims like Islam  STERIOTYPES all Christians and Jews/ Steriotypes and labels breed HATE, ignorance.

 

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- Men are superior to women. (Surah 2:282)
- Women have half the rights of men:
 a. In court witness (Surah 2:282)
 b. in inheritance (Surah 4:11)
- A man may beat his wife (Surah 4:34)
- A man may marry up to four wives at the same time (Surah 4:3)
- Muslims must fight until their opponents submit to Islam (Surah 9:5)
- A Muslim must not take a Jew or a Christian for a friend (Surah 5:54)
- A Muslim apostate must be killed (Surah 9:12)
- Stealing is punished by the amputation of the hands (Surah 5:41)
- Adultery is punished by public flogging (Surah 2:42)
- No separation between Church and State. (Surah 2:193)
- No opposition party allowed (Surah 4:59)

Antisemitic

Muhammad married Aisha at age 6/ muhammad 51  (5 according  to islamic calendar) had sex with her at age 9/ muhammad 54 (8 islamic calendar).(In the arab culture you often say 1yr old instead of 3,4,5..mounths old so you are a year ahead /younger in some calculations.)

(But sadly we know that the last days wickedness will increase)

*PROFOUND LINKS!
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
http://www.thereligionofpea...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.answering-islam....
http://www.investigateislam...
http://www.tellthechildrent...

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Dawah usually lacks any real revelation and when it has a truth its truth that was revealed long before muhammad. They hijack the arabic terms for submission (Islam) and one who submits (muslim) and use these terms to identify their ideology as if that somehow makes their ideology true submission to the Almighty. They make claims like look Yeshua prayed while prostrating so we follow Yeshua more than Christians. Do they not know that Christains also prostrate themselves (when led to do so and then its from the heart and not some traditional premeditated ritual) as did those before muhammad. Yeshua wasnt limited to this postion in prayer btw! This is hardly support to say they know Yeshua. People can prostrate for many reasons. People can prostrate towards idols like the black stone (as do muslims), people can prostrate out of total dispair or from simpley giving out of energy. Get some revelation and spirituality and morals then the world will be interested in what you follow. Prayers for show just isnt it.

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Jihad

Whosoever dies without participating in an expedition (Jihad) nor having the intention to do so dies on a branch of hypocrisy /- Hadith Sahih Muslim and Sunan An Nasai 3099

Surah 9:123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

 

Sahih Muslim 30/ fight against people as long as they dont declare allah
Sahih Al Bukhari 6922/ If anyone change religion from islam kill him

Surahs of Quran:
48:29 be severe against dibelievers yet are merciful among themselves (muslims)
5:51 Dont take Jew and Christian as friends they are friends of themselves
9:29 YUSUFALI translation: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

PICKTHAL translation: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

SHAKIR translation: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
(note fight those who dont believe as a muslim nothing to do with fighting those who attacked u/defense)
9:73 strive hard against dibelievers
9:111 Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain

updates:

Arab festival 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smw9QuH1xkA

Mayor of Dearborn (part of the problem)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X319T75kOkw
John B. ( Mayor John B. O'Reilly, Jrweb. Jack) O'Reilly, Jr.

The fact remains that not all Arabs are muslim and these are attempts to attack freedoms of Christians. ONE NATION UNDER GOD????

I do not make it common place to focuss on other belief systems but thought this was an interesting vid. it uses english translations of Islamic sources to show how Islam does encourage violence against those who are not Islamic.
If any want to claim these are not proper translations why then are these sources within the Islamic faith? Feel free to comment



jihad (violence):
Surahs 9:5/ 9:29/ 2:193/ 9:111/ 9:123/ 8:12/ 8:60..........

Islamic Sources Are UNclean- full of loose ends like Satans understanding and ideologies
Here is one tool you may need if working to exspose Islam in the future:

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/...
The Quran describes Allah as the best deceiver there is, a liar who is not above using the same evil and wicked schemes of his opponents.

For example, the Quran calls Allah a makr, in fact the best makr there is:

But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30

Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:

Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99

So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50

The word for deception/deceiver/scheme is makr. The lexical sources define the term as:

Miim-Kaf-Ra = To practice deceit or guile or circumvention, practice evasion or elusion, to plot, to exercise art or craft or cunning, act with policy, practice stratagem.

makara vb. (1)
perf. act. 3:54, 3:54, 7:123, 13:42, 14:46, 16:26, 16:45, 27:50, 40:45, 71:22
impf. act. 6:123, 6:123, 6:124, 8:30, 8:30, 8:30, 10:21, 12:102, 16:127, 27:70, 35:10
n.vb. 7:99, 7:99, 7:123, 10:21, 10:21, 12:31, 13:33, 13:42, 14:46, 14:46, 14:46, 27:50, 27:50, 27:51, 34:33, 35:10, 35:43, 35:43, 71:22
pcple. act. 3:54, 8:30

Thus, the Quran unashamedly calls Muhammad’s god the best liar and deceiver of them all! It even dares to say that ALL deception belongs completely to Allah:

And verily, those before them did deceive/scheme (makara), but all deception/scheming is Allah's (falillahi al-makru). He knows what every person earns, and the disbelievers will know who gets the good end. S. 13:42

In fact, the Quran states that Allah actually raises wicked individuals to deceive and scheme:

Even so have we placed in every city, ringleaders of its wicked ones, to scheme therein (liyamkuroo): but only against themselves shall they scheme (yamkuroona)! and they know it not. S. 6:123 Rodwell

And further commands people to do evil so that he can then have a reason to destroy them!

And when We would destroy a township We send commandment to its folk who live at ease, AND AFTERWARD they commit abomination therein, and so the Word (of doom) hath effect for it, and we annihilate it with complete annihilation. S. 17:16 Pickthall
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=9&tid=20986 - if you meet Jews or christians in the way force them to the narrowest side. Does this sound nice?

http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=74&... - breed hate among Christians 5.14 http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=74&...

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