Finding Harmony In The Word

Like Unto Moses?

Was muhammad a prophet? (NO)/ There is only one "messenger of the quran (muhammad). Muslims follow a single Man.

LIKE UNTO MOSES

The life of Moses is considered a Messianic prototype

*** Deut 18:15-22

The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee (Israel) a Prophet from the midst of thee (Israel), of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not (Ex.20:18-19). And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. I will raise them (ISRAEL) up a Prophet from among their brethren (Israel), like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

_____Like unto Moses_____

The LORD likes that the people have a healthy respect for him. He respects their request and says that he will speak to his people through prophets and mentions one to come that will be Like Unto Moses. (Yeshua HaMashiach mets all the qualifications)

This consists of: Teaching/confirming Torah,&

*** 1) Being a Prophet

(In the sense of one who gives prophesy- Deut.18:22 which comes to pass, but not all that give prophacy are prophets of YHVH Mark 13:22 ,* Deut.13:1-4 I challenge any muslim to document one prophacy (of any value that wasnt stolen from a Real prophet) of Muhammad that came to pass or one miracle!) / Another basic use of the term "prophet" (one who teaches) also applies and it should be one who teaches in harmony of the Word (Yeshua said think not that i come to destroy the law but rather to fulfill it) rather than to abrogate.

*** 2)Being an Israelite "From among their brethren", "unto thee", "In the midst of thee"vs.15 also note Deut.34:10-12 / Not Arabic tribe/ Mohammad didnt see Israelites as his people or brethren neither did Israel see Mohammad as an Israelite. Ishmael was brother to Isaac (this is true). This was before Moses speaking to Israel. Some individuals may say in general this makes muhammad a brother. If this is the case who isnt in some way? we are all related. Deut 18:15,18

(Moses was speaking unto Israel- of which Muhammad is not, its of Israel a prophet like unto Moses must come)

Israel asks Moses be an intercessor That GOD speak to Moses and Moses speak to the people.

*** 3) One who comes in the Name of The LORD (did Name carries with it character/ Muhammad use the sacrid name or even the same doctrine?No, Muhammad teaches to embrace a rule of abrogation, and never used the sacrid name) Deut 18:7,19,20,22

*** 4) One who recieves revelation directly from YHVH./ Mohammad got his revelation through a mediator (angel Gabriel) instead of him being one. (Deut.34:10) Moses recieved revelation directly from The LORD our God!

LIKE unto Moses! Like would mean that their messages confirm one another (correct?).

Yet the quran says "allah doesn't begat sons nor is he begotten" (Sura 112:3/ Sura 23:9). The very word used here in Sura 112:3 is yaw- lad (H-3205). The same Word used in:

Deut.32:18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee. (Thus according the The WORD of THe LORD that came through Moses Israel was begotten of him! This in the same book that some muslims want to ignorantly use to say muhammad was LIKE unto Moses yet it contradicts the foundation of their claims.)

Perhaps muhammad didn't have qualified answers.

Deut.32:6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?

Deut.8:1-5 Again God is to be considered Father. (as many more verses/ while this is a Spiritual concept seeing as The LORD is Spirit, his are "begotten" of him.)

Ex.4:22-23 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

Jn.8:41-44 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Also in islam they are told a virgin concieved and had a child (Is.7:14). How does that happen? By Devine Intervent. So seeing as the child had no Physical Father LOGIC would tell us that the child's Father is YHVH. So Islam contradicts its self according to logic. (Is.9:6 a son called El Gibbor- the mighty God)

(Ps.2:7 / Acts 13:33/ Heb.1:5)

More <--- on the Super Natural Birth of Yeshua (and others in the Word)

_____Beware of false prophets________

When we compare the Tanakh (O.T.) with the Gospels (N.T.) and the muslim sources we see that not only does Muhammad not qualify to be a prophet he Does qualify to be an antichrist and false prophet.

*** FALSE PROPHETS: 2 Jn.1:10-11, I Jn.4:1, 1 Cor.2:4, Rom.16:17, Acts 20:29:30, 2 Pet.2:1, Col.2:8, Matt.7:15, Matt.24:11, Jer.5:31, Jer.14:14, Mat.24:24, Jer.2:8 ...

*** The enemy Jer.9:14/ Jn.8:44

*** Types of antichrists- 1 Jn.2:22/ 1 Jn.4:3/ 2 Jn.1:7

*** Mohammad claimed that Christ was nothing more than a prophet, then he made himself equal to Christ by claiming to be a prophet as well, then claimed to be above Christ seeing as he met Christ in the 2nd heaven then went up higher until he reached the 7th heaven. Quran 17:1 Surah Al-Isra / Hadith: Isra and Mi'raj / "Siratu'l Rasul" vs. 270-271. This is the ideology of Satan (antichrist):

*** Is.14:13-14 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High./ Ez. 28:2,6-7!

Quran tells muslims they are limited to understand SPIRIT (Surah /Al-Isra/ 17.85). This is one truth in quran muslims dont understand Spiritual things. This is why they dont understand Mashiach (Matt.16:13-17/ 1 Cor.2:14/ 2 Cor.2:12-17/ Rom.8:6/....).

English translations:

17.085

YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)"

PICKTHAL: They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord, and of knowledge ye have been vouchsafed but little.

SHAKIR: And they ask you about the soul. Say: The soul is one of the commands of my Lord, and you are not given aught of knowledge but a little.

___No one will list one miracle (prophacy) of mohammad___

mohammad said himself he didnt have the ability to work miracles (feel free to document one prophacy!:)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 92, Number 379
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "There was no prophet among the prophets but was given miracles because of which people had security or had belief, but what I was given was the Divine Inspiration which Allah revealed to me. So I hope that my followers will be more than those of any other prophet on the Day of Resurrection."

There are many verses in Quran that reaffirm this last Hadith, proving that muhammad never performed any miracle and found it useless. In the following verse muhammad is acknowledging that other prophets before him came with miracles or clear signs but still people rejected them, highlighting the futility of miracles as the proof of his revelation.

Q. 03: 138
They (also) said: "Allah took our promise not to believe in an messenger unless He showed us a sacrifice consumed by Fire (From heaven)." Say: "There came to you messengers before me, with clear Signs and even with what ye ask for: why then did ye slay them, if ye speak the truth?" if you are truthful?

All along, the unbelievers asked muhammad to perform a miracle so that they could believe. All they got in response was,

Q. 17: 90
They say: "We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth,

And he would reply:

Q. 17: 93
Say: "Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man,- a messenger?"

People doubted muhammad because they saw nothing extraordinary or miraculous in him.

Q. 17: 94
And naught prevented mankind from believing when the guidance came unto them save that they said: Hath Allah sent a mortal as (His) messenger?

Q. 25: 7
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?

Q. 25: 8
"Or (Why) has not a treasure been bestowed on him, or why has he (not) a garden for enjoyment?" The wicked say: "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched."

But muhammad kept telling them that he is just an ordinary man not an angel, meaning people should not expect miracles from him!

Q. 17: 95
Say: Had there been in the earth angels walking about as settlers, We would certainly have sent down to them from the heaven an angel as a messenger.

The common sense dictates that no one would deny and call a man who performs such mighty miracles like splitting the moon, as believed by all the Muslims a mad man or possessed. But the people who knew him actually called him by these names.

Q. 15: 06
They say: "O thou to whom the Message is being revealed! truly thou art mad (or possessed)!.

No one would demand him miracles if he had already performed one

Q. 15: 07
Why do you not bring to us the angels if you are of the truthful ones?

But muhammad responded

Q. 15: 08
We send not the angels down except for just cause: if they came (to the ungodly), behold! no respite would they have!

The Quraishites kept asking for a sign or a miracle to believe and muhammad kept saying that he is only a warner.

Q. 13: 07
"And the Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" But thou art truly a warner, and to every people a guide."

There are many more ayat that tell the same story. People asking miracles and him saying I am just a man, just like you, only a warner. A clear proof that muhammad never performed any miracles is in this verse where it says that people rejected even other messengers who came with miracles and clear signs, meaning miracles are not helpful.

Q. 3: 184
Then if they reject thee, so were rejected messengers before thee, who came with Clear Signs, Books of dark prophecies, and the Book of Enlightenment. http://youtu.be/uJucCSnYupY

In the above verses muhammad is denying any supernatural power. If he could perform the miracles attributed to him in those Ahadith, what is the meaning of these verses? In the following verse he clearly rejects miracles as the proof of prophethood comparing them to witchcrafts.

Q. 2: 3

Their hearts toying as with trifles. The wrong-doers conceal their private counsels, (saying), "Is this (one) more than a man like yourselves? Will ye go to witchcraft with your eyes open?"
(Suras * 17:59, 88:93; 13:7,30; 6:37,109,124; 7:203; 2:87,99,118-119,151, 252; 3:183). shows mohammad didnt work miracles!

*** ^This shows that moe was Not "Like unto Moses"/ (Deut.18:21-22, Is.41:21-24, Ex10:1-2, ect.)

____Islam is not of The LORD_____

Muhammad claimed to get revelations from an angel. We are warned of "angels" (familure spirits/ demons) that come to decieve *** Gal.1:8/ Rom.8:35-39/ Col.2:18/ 2 Cor.11:14 (Muhammad's talking to the dead and demon possession will be focuss in other discussions, just as "taqiyya" (encouraged deception), and so on...... Muhammad's fruits are of the Devil. Islam is a war manual filled with porno images, hate, and perversion of God's Word.

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by William H. on December 18, 2014 at 4:31am

Its obvious that muslims faith is carnal based. The quran even tells muslims they struggle to understand the spirit (of inspiration), as I have documented in the op. / English translations: 17.085 YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)" PICKTHAL: They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord, and of knowledge ye have been vouchsafed but little. SHAKIR: And they ask you about the soul. Say: The soul is one of the commands of my Lord, and you are not given aught of knowledge but a little.

Christ says you cant understand Mashiach with a carnal mind (that he isnt revealed to such and that you cant understand the Word unless you have spiritual eyes and ears so quran shows muslims are carnal based followers of nonsense). Bible also says G-d is spirit and those who worship him worship him in spirit and in truth.

The major malfunction amoung muslims is easy to see by their ideology and the things they say. Example: A muslim told me its laughable that the apostels were able to write what Yeshua said to YHVH when he was alone. If they knew how the apostels were inspired of the Holy spirit it makes perfect sense. Christ told them that he would send them the Holy Spirit to guide them and stir up rememberance of what Christ did in truth. We are also told that when we are instruments of the Holy Spirit that we are to allow the Holy Spirit to speak not to premeditate what we say that its not us speaking but the holy Spirit of truth. If muhammad had been inspired he too would have been able to do such things. However I have yet to meet a muslim that can share 1 revelation of value to all that was ONLY revealed in the quran. Thus quran is of No real value. Then these heathans have the nerve to say muhammad is the holy Spirit. Whatever muslims, whatever. You are where you are/ May Yah rip you out of the hands of HaSatan and his doctrine of islam.

Permalink Reply by William H. on March 19, 2015 at 5:57am

Lev.26:1/ Num.33:50-53
"Worship"(H#7812/ G#4352)- To raise something up above you and other things. Forms of showing this upmost respect would be to bow down towards, kiss,.. (much like the things muslims do towards the kabba (black stone).
1) https://youtu.be/CCZ0ywyss28 [Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 26: Volume 2, Book 26, Number 667] Narrated 'Abis bin Rabia: 'Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."
[Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 675] Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said: "Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' 'Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'
Bible forbids worship of stone or wood (idols)/ (Deut.4:28, Eze.20:32, Deut.28:64, Rev.9:20)
2) https://youtu.be/sXmbloRnRBQ
3) https://youtu.be/JAK8vdCG_UM

Permalink Reply by William H. on June 5, 2018 at 8:11am

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