Homosexuality

[William H.]

All have sinned and allowing God's Word to speak on this subject should not be seen as hateful. To avoid the truth of the matter would not be showing concern for those in danger of God's righteous judgement. Proverbs 1:7/ Jn.8:32

 1 Pet.2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul.

YHVH doesn't force us to embrace Him or His Word. We have the choice to embrace Life or Death. There are effects for our actions and the state of our hearts. There are conditions and standards that are met before recieving either curses or blessings.

We are all acountable for ourselves, and Woe to any who seek to blame God for anything (Jer.23:39-40).

  James 1:13-15

Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

___Roots of Homosexuality___

Within Homosexuality there are two spirits one of Sodomy/sodomite (aggressive/ dominate attraction and lust) and effeminate (passive/ submissive).

Intro: To grasp the meat of what is about to follow some may have need of understanding some basics about the biblical earth ages. 

* Matt.19:12 can be understood in many layers depending on how its applied. 

(KJV) " For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

The word eunuch in its most basic form is to mention one who doesn't take part in natural mating for whatever the reason (good or bad) /celibate, impotence,... It does Not mean homosexual, however a homosexual could be seen as a eunuch, as well as one who chooses to refrain from (natural) sexual affection, and one who physically becomes celibate either buy surgery or injury or choice. 

 Eunuch G#2135- 1) an emasculated man 2) One naturally incapacitated (a) for marriage (b) begetting children (celibate) 3) refraining from natural sexual bonds for one reason or the other (injury, surgery, sexual immorality). (Note homosexuals don’t have such bonds.)

Many defensive homosexuals use the claim: "I was born this way, i didnt choose to be this way".

If Matt.19:12 says some can be born gay can we exspect a second witness? Also why would some be born gay? 

 

______Born Gay?_______

* Rom.1:18-32 *******************

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness (2Thess.2:10-12/ Titus 1:16/ ); Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened (Jude1:4). Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves (Is.55:7): Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient (Deut.22:5); Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding (Is.44:18), covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

(I Suggest "earth ages" study)

Side note: This second witness gives Great detail! After understanding that we (spiritually) came from The Father and are in the same image as The Elohim. That there was a rebellion in heaven when lucifer instead of being one of two protectors of the mercy seat (authority in the Word) sat in it claiming to be worthy (instead of /anti/ Christ). Many embraced this rebellion and chose not to stand Firm with YHVH and instead played the game of the desolator. The destruction of the first earth age followed and thus all spirits were to be born of water (woman) into the flesh effected by both good and bad after the serpent introduced this fruit to them. (Again The Earth Ages study will document this to those new to it).

You will also need to understand that wind (breath) represents spirit and that we have two defacto "bodies" a unseen spirit body-image- and a flesh (physical) body. (Gen.2:7/ Jn.3:8/ 1 Cor.15:38,40,42,44/ 2 Cor.5:7-10/ Ecc.12:6-7/ Ps.104:29/ Phil.3:21..)

So here in Rom.1 we see mention that these rebellious Spirits once knew all that God (El Shaddai) has made manifest (were members of Elohim- divine judgement- includes the angels (The Son's of God / spirits/ hosts of heaven- spirit realm- 1st earth age). Yet these spirits embraced straying from God to worship the "creature" (Note: YHVH created lucifer).  The Word states that those who are homosexuals are that way Because in spirit they are (were) rebellious towards YHVH for even when the truth is given to them they have (had) no love for it. When God be known unto them they glorify Him not. Rom.1:18, 19, 20, 21,22, 24,25,26,27,28. So individuals receive homosexual lusts as a reflection of the state of their rebellious hearts. Thus they Did choose to be this way (un-natural affection).

Rom.1:20 "From the creation of the world"/ Jude 1:4 (aions)

Job 38:3-7 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God (angels/ spirits) shouted for joy?

 (They knew God Rom.1:21 strong>1st earth age -aion/ Then were given unclean lusts <current 2nd earth age.)

 Homosexuality is a sin (abomination Lev.18:22-23) with need of Repentance and the blood of the lamb (2 Pet.3:9). It is Not the unpardonable sin (1 Cor.6:11), however can be compared to it. Not to embrace the sacrifice which covers sin and to rebuke The Spirit of Truth (The Holy Spirit/ Ruach HaKodesh) will be unpardonable in due time (at judgement). This is exactly what these spirits did in Rom.1 for the mercy seat is the Throne of Messiah at the right hand of the LORD our God and they worshiped the creature instead of The Creator when they had the truth. (Eze.28:14-19/ Is.14:12-14)/ If you don't embrace God you don't recieve God's mercy (Grace). If you seek death you will find it! 

 Even when some spirits are born inclined to unclean lusts as they mature they still would have to Choose to act on such lusts to be defined by them. ___________Nations________

Cultures and surroundings (molestation, rape, jail...) also play a role in this subject. In the cities of Sodom  and Gomorrah such rebellious ways had become a part of the culture (norm). Kids in the area had accepted this as a way of the land (Gen.19:4-67"men..know..wickedly"). Thus these societies suffered the wrath of God (2 Pet.2:6). Sadly today modern societies around the world are embracing the homosexual lifestyle more than at any other time in history.

Deut.23:17-18 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

"Dog" Hebrew #3611/ keleb- male prostitute/ title of degradation

1 Thess.4:3-5

For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

1 Cor.6:9,10,11Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind (G#733 arsenokoites- sodomite), Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
(Lk.6:37/ Matt.7:1-14) (Col.3:1-11)

____Judgement_____

During days of the priestly order (Deut.17:9) the earthly punishment for homosexual activity was the death penalty  Lev.20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Genesis 19:1-13, Leviticus 18:22; 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9, Romans 1:24-27,...)

 It should be obvious to all that the priestly order of the temple is no longer in effect. There is no temple on the mount and Messiah has fulfullied the Passover (blood) sacrifice (1 Cor.5:6-8/ Heb.2:14) which makes death pass over whomsoever is drawn to Grace by faith. However as individuals of The Many Membered Body (the church) we are still told how to respond to those who embrace these lustful ways (Lev.18:29).

(Rev.21:8/ Rev.22:15)

Disfellowship (dead to us) is the proper stance against those who embrace homosexuality and insist on the lifestyle today. Matt.18:15,16,17,18,19,20 <compare with> Deut.19:15,16,17,18,19,20,21; 17:2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13/ Disfellowship with such people/spirits when it comes to fellowship in faith (such as The Passover sacrifice 1 Cor.5). Your not to make family members into enemies but you make it known they are not of the faith or the congregation that is in the faith. 2 Thess.3:6,7,11,13,14,*15 (titus 3:10) and this is done out of love and will lead one who seeks truth unto edification.

* Eph.5:3,10,11

* 1 Cor.5:1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13 The Church should separate its self those embracing fornication otherwise the church becomes perverted and begins to justify wickedness. Members of the church should conduct themselves as the body of Christ and not one of fornication. 

1 Cor.5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan (G#4567 Satanas- Accuser)for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

(sometimes you have to let people hit rock bottom before they begin to look up. Lk.15:11-32/)

1 Cor.6:15-20

 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

1 Cor.5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

__Marriage__

To enable one to sin is to partake of their evil deeds (2 Jn.1:10-11). One example of not enabling this sin is in the debate over "gay marriage". If you were to be invited to a "gay wedding" you would be partaking of their sin by attending. Reason being is cause they are making a vow to transgress God in the future (disreguard for repentance) and you supporting this is therefore a sin. You supporting "gay marriage" is a sin. (This isn't to say that all people shouldn't be given basic rights).

(1 Cor.7:1,2,3,4,5,6,7) Marriage is between a woman and a man (Ot- Gen.2:24/ NT (Christ speaking) Matt 19:5)

Heb.13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. (Man can justify anything within his own mind but the truth will stand when the earth is on fire!)

Discernment

While we are encouraged to seperate ourselves from that which is unfruitful, and when the enemy seeks to push things on us Rebuke them with the authority of Christ, we are also not to judge anyone as being Hopeless of salvation (Matt.5:22) for that is the opposite of our calling of sharing the good news (out of concern for all/ Edification) and the time for commiting the unpardonable sin has yet to come.

We have to leave some hope towards salvation (REPENTANCE) open to homosexuals cause Christ died for all, for all have sinned. However in no way should we make way for the homosexual agenda in the name of love and or tolerance. Those practicing discipline over transgression may seek support and in the body and may they find it.

Those who understand the 1st and 2nd resurrection and 1st and 2nd death know the Final Judgement clearly comes at the End of the LORD's day (the Great White Throne Judgement) and few will take part in the 1st resurrection. Those who take part in the 2nd resurrection find victory after being free from lusts of the flesh and the temptation of the devil for 1,000 yrs (1day) while being preached to by the elect. As for me, I would rather take part in the 1st ressurection =) (More Info)..(more).

Lust has Nothing to do with LOVE. God is Love. You can love someone without being sexually attracted to them. You can be physically attracted to someone without loving them. So to seek to use "love" to justify homosexuality just defies logic. We are to be known by our fruits for what is in our hearts will show in our actions. (Gal.5:16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25)

 2 Tim.2:22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

 

  1 Corinthians 3:16-17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

2 Cor. 10:3-5 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 

Is.55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

 
1 Timothy 1:9-10 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

There are gendar roles.
Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

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Rev.3:19- As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

God knows our hearts. Currently there are those who have the Spirit of slumber for a good reason for to know better and commit a transgression is far worse than one who commits the same not knowing better. Thus some currently have the spirit of slumber for they would transgress if the knew better for they embrace earthly ways and rebellion inwardly (they are neither interested or willing /ready/ Some have to learn everything the hard way).

We have both a flesh body and a spirit body (1 Cor.15:44), which do you feed more?(Rom.10:17 / Matt.4:4). God knows! Jn.6:44 

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Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire

Matthew 11:24 (*Matt.10:15)
But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.

These places and people being spoken to have recieved the truth and repented not. Sodom didn't recieve such truths (the gospel) and thus their punishment wouldn't be of the same torment as those who knew better.

(Matt.15:19-20/ Acts 15:20) To any living in sin, REPENTANCE is the BEGINNING of overcoming in Yeshua haMashiach. after repentance, Yeshua has done his part and now its your responcibility to go forward in his character (Name) striving against sin and embraceing an ongoing relationship with YHVH. If this isn't your priority then so be it

[William H.]

And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.¹⁵ Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

[William H.]

[William H.]

[His_Will]

"LESSON FROM NATURE: Have you ever tried sticking two negative or positively charged ends of a magnet together? Well you'll find out you can't do it. They are "repulsive" to one another. But if you try to attach the "+" to a "-" they instantly cling together as one like a marriage between a man and a woman. So anyone who believes in and accepts "Same" Sex Marriage needs to take some elementary classes in physics." - Pastor Ben Heath

Also checkout this Disturbing liberal indoctrination of children on the gay agenda https://youtu.be/8TJxnYgP6D8 ; gay muslim fighters http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/07/29/it-is-permissible-for-the-muja... muslim cleric speaking https://youtu.be/hMNYBAn-aMg    

"Bible code" in the story of Sodom and gAmorah with mention of AIDS.  

[His_Will]

This goes for ALL sin but im sick and tired of people enabling and justifying the sin of homosexuality (Let go of the pride). God so loved the world (Jn.3:16) ... Jn.3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

 

[His_Will]

Disturbingly just had a conversation with a 16 yr old boy (who grew up in a "Christian" home) who told his story about "coming out" and how he now feels "peaceful bliss" where he use to feel suicidal.

His words:

"Hi so warning my continuing life story as a bisexual. Please actually read the whole thing before commenting. Ok so mom and my dad raised my in a very religious Christian house hold. All the typical Christianly things went to church's on Sundays and such. Fast forward to 12 year old me boom feels. Everything is new and very very confusing. First I was like oh hey girls this is cool. And then bam eye catches on a guy. I don't really think anything of it I'm just 12 still an innocent child. Fast forward two years age 14 realize that I'm something outside straight. Something that I had been told all my life that god hated. So me as 14 with no help and conflicting advice it it's a choice it's not start on the path of trying not to be bi. I currently as of 16 finally decided to accept my self instead of repressing my true self. But anyway during those two years I got more and more depressed and sucidal. It got so bad that I thought about sucide pretty much once every day. That pretty much all happened because it seemed all my prayers fell on deaf ears. So probably two months ago I decided to step outside the closet. I told my group of friends and and to this day they still are the best friends ever. Anyway so when I came out guess what I felt? I felt instant peaceful bliss it felt supernatural not any feeling I could ever conjure on my own. Even as I type this I still feel the approval of god. Now with all this in consideration why do people still try to deny me rights and hate me just so like the same sex?"

This is real troublesome to me. I tried engaging him in discussion with:

"Man can justify Anything within his own mind. What i dont understand is if you are somewhat attracted to girls why even entertain sexual relations with guys. You claim your attracted to both right? The attraction isnt so much the problem. Everyone has lusts. It when you actively engage in homosexual lifestyle that you are sinning. Jas.1:14-16 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
Gal.5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh....... We arent to lean unto our own understanding. You say you "feel peaceful bliss". Perhaps you "feel" this cause you have confronted what you feared and self justified your feelings (lusts). Its to be expected. The bible says that those who are. ...... The bible when mentioning how homosexuality is an effect of a persons spiritual rebellion and no apprechiation towards G-d. (Rom 1) it also says "Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." (Rom.1:32) so your feeling of pleasure isnt approval from G-d but rather yourself. Sounds like this is a major issue for you and many others (same sex attraction) and I pray that you find pleasure in G-D rather than yourself. When we read the bible we often see that G-d's will for us is our sanctification (not self justification). Im glad you still have Friends that care about you but know that G-d cares much much more. Lk.8:14 "And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection." I hope you see that we arent to be guided by our own lusts (bodies) but rather invited to die of self and live in the Spirit! Peace and Light of Hashem. Always remember lust is NOT love. You can love your fellow man without fulfilling lusts for him."

 His responce was not postive:

"Will because guys are so much better. No mind games. No drama, no cycles. And what are the benefits of dating a girl?"

Well at this point its obvious Im not getting through to him. This reminds me how we are told in the end it shall be like the days of Lot (and Noah). Lot lived in a society (Sodom and Gamorah) in which the culture its self embraced sexual immorality as the Norm. Today society is feeding into peoples personal lusts and self justification. Its people like this who need your prayers but in the end they will choose. May the time come when this person and others like him cross paths with the Prince of peace and realize all this "pleasure" they proclaim leaves them and they find that its no good and only leads to destruction.

 

[William H.]

2 Thess.2:11-17 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

¹¹ And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

¹² That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

¹³ But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

¹⁴ Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

¹⁵ Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

¹⁶ Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

¹⁷ Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

[William H.]

Sodomy laws abolished, timeline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States.
Laws repealed or struck down before 1970 -yellow

Laws repealed or struck down from 1970-1979- dark yellow

Laws repealed or struck down from 1980-1989- orange

Laws repealed or struck down from 1990-1999- orange red

Laws repealed or struck down from 2000-2002- red

Laws struck down by the supreme court of the US in 2003.- maroon (dark red)

In the process of giving gays equal rights (benifits) the government is perverting "marriage". This nation is asking for curses. Be ye set apart.

And Today Supreme Court clears way for same-sex unions in California

America continues to ask for curses./ muslim imam marries gays http://youtu.be/tpxsmvb7bNE

Sharia

[William H.]

1 Thess.4:3-5 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

"fornication"- #4202 porneia-harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively idolatry: - fornication. FROM porneuo #4203- to act the harlot, that is, (literally) indulge unlawful lust (of either sex), or (figuratively) practise idolatry: - commit (fornication) which is from #4204 porne - a strumpet; figuratively an idolater: - harlot, whore. (Rom.1:24-32/ 1 Cor.5:5,11) #4204 is the femine of #4205 pornos- a (male) prostitute (as venal), that is, (by analogy) a debauchee (libertine): - fornicator, whoremonger. (Gal.5:19/ 1 Cor.6:9-11/ Mk.7:20-23/ Lev.18:22; 20:13/ Gen.19:5 Judges 19:22/ 1 Tim.1:8-11) 

[William H.]

The Liberal media is seeking to further confuse Lust with LOVE. The Greek has more than one term translated to "Love". Each shows a specific standard to it.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love

Next the muslims will be pushing their right to have 4 wives. That should cause many perves to convert.